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Sorry a little more info on this problem

We are running a Windows 2003 SP1 network. Desktops are all windows XP SP2.
With all updated security patches on server and desktop side.

I have also looked into KB913446 MS06-007 as this may lead to issues with
connectivity. All my servers have this update as well as a new one that is
also getting the errors as well.

Thanks
Adam Raff



"Adam Raff" <araff@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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Good Day, Over the few months we have been having an ongoing issue with the following error messages and they appear on all of our servers. Event Type: Warning Event Source: Srv Event Category: None Event ID: 2012 Date: 8/17/2007 Time: 2:18:26 AM User: N/A Computer: HSMAIN Description: While transmitting or receiving data, the server encountered a network error. Occassional errors are expected, but large amounts of these indicate a possible error in your network configuration. The error status code is contained within the returned data (formatted as Words) and may point you towards the problem. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: 00040000 00540001 00000000 800007dc 0010: 00000000 c0000184 00000000 00000000 0020: 00000000 00000000 0000097a I have looked at this from so many ways but I can not find the point of the error. You see the problem goes away on weekends. We pretty much turn off all desktops but all servers and printer (network connected) and switches stay on. I thought that it was a desktop and checked over all the desktops and identified some that may have bad Nics. After fixing them I am still getting errors but again they disappear over the weekend. The error message says to look in the error code which may point me in the right direction but I can not make heads or tails out to the error message. If somebody knows how to read this and point me in the right direction it would be a great help. Thank You Adam Raff

"Jean Paul Mertens" <ON7AMI@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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Hello to all, I have a problem with a BDC (windows 2000 server) who does not see that the PDC (SBS 2000) is back on-line.

1. There is no such thing as a PDC and BDC in Windows 2000 or newer. There
is a PDC "role" but it is not the same thing.

2. SBS cannot join an existing Domain, so having a second DC in an SBS
controlled system is almost [but not quite] totally worthless.
a. Rebuilding SBS and giving it the same Domain name as before only
creates two *different* domains that just happen to have the same name.
b. The other DC can not see the SBS as being back online on the original
Domain because the SBS is not back online in the orignal Domain. It is a
completely new SBS on a completely new Domain that just happens to use the
same name.

The proper way to have fault tolerance and recoverability with SBS is by
using System-State Backups for the software side and RAID for the hardware
side. The RAID itself needs to be done in Hardware and not in Windows. IMO,
disaster recovery with SBS is itself a disaster and is why I would never
want to run SBS.

There have been third-party non-Microsoft solutions "invented" to deal with
this. You may have to ask in a SBS Group to find details on that. I don''t
have any links or information for that myself.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

Its per application, so you need to look for the application setting or
registry key that allows you to relocate settings. They don't all allow it.
The folders in the profile are an MS standard and obviously not everyone
follows it.
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk


"Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message
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No I do not want all my Adobe stuff roaming. How can I make it so my Adobe stuff does not continue to put stuff on the server profile? I have the profile down to 172MB. How can I get that down to the 5-25MB range? "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:eAyLEOL4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... I think the recommendation is 5MB, and 25MB max. The profile is intended to be settings, not data. The problem area is the overlap in things like Adobe thumbnails; Dreamweaver data; dictionaries etc. It should be possible to get the profile down to 25MB or less by redirecting all the data. In a few cases (Adobe is one) you may have to dispense with the roaming profile and leave it local - but do you really want all your thumbnails roaming? Hope that helps, Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it still takes awhile to log on and off. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... You have to create a GPO: USER Administrative Templates\ System\ User Profiles Exclude directories in roaming profile Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally included in the user's profile. I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is a workaround -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, but that break the roaming profile. Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the problem. Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected folder & offline sync. You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to be so big ? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the Application Data folder? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the server. Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected folder share like application data (if you are using redirected folders) -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync copy)." I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users and Computers and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's useless. Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline folder for this part. You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync copy). -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose to be set to? "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for offline. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... How big are your profiles ? any offline sync folder? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... hello, can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) any eventlog error entry ? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log into their machines. After you type in your password the message saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be available offline". My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be available offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be available offline." I see that there is another offline option that states, "All files and programs that users open from the share will be automatically available offline" it also has a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but I don't really think that is the case. Thanks -Scott

Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting the
MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP version is
newer and won't install the downloaded version.
I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is there
any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the downloaded one?


"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

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Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers solutions if you run into issues installing... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265 "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Try reinstalling the MMC itself ... http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4c84f80b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com... Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the problem. "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you able to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove Snap-in->Add->Event Viewer). You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a corruption or reregister whatever is wonky... For Windows 2003 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c16ae515-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en For Windows 2003 SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e487f885-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com... There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The mouse cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts. I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs. I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the system32 folder. They won't run from there either. "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one of these mcs? You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another machine's Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on as Domain Admin right-click MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your problem server.) Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc, Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and that you can run them directly from there. Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com... Thanks for the response... This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software has been added for weeks. I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps, including event viewer. I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change. A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk. Ideas? "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Hi Ian, We are going to need abit more info. Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues started occuring? Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue started occuring? Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log errors would really help us. If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu? You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online scanner such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one. You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems with your hard drive. Coraleigh Miller "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com... Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch: 1) Any administrative tools 2) Event viewer 3) Services viewer 4) ISA Management Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work fine.

I am running into the exact same issue here with our 2003 Server R2
Enterprise box. Rebooted, ran SFC with no luck. MMC will not open
nor will any .msc modules. If you find a fix, please post back here
and I will do the same.

On Aug 17, 11:30 am, XraySpecs <XraySp...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

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Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting the MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP version is newer andwon'tinstall the downloaded version. I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is there any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the downloaded one? "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers solutions if youruninto issues installing... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265 "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Try reinstalling the MMC itself ... http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4c84f80b-908... Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySp...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com... Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the problem. "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you able to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove Snap-in->Add->Event Viewer). You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a corruption or reregister whatever is wonky... For Windows 2003 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c16ae515-c8f... For Windows 2003 SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e487f885-f0c... Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySp...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com... There are no errors that pop when yourunone of these mcs's. The mouse cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts. I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs. I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the system32 folder. Theywon'trunfrom there either. "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try andrunone of these mcs? You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another machine's Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on as Domain Admin right-click MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your problem server.) Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc, Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and that you canrunthem directly from there. Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySp...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com... Thanks for the response... This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software has been added for weeks. I booted in safe mode and could notrunany of the listed apps, including event viewer. I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change. A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk. Ideas? "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Hi Ian, We are going to need abit more info. Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues started occuring? Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue started occuring? Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log errors would really help us. If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu? You should probablyrunan antivirus scan on yourserver, an online scanner such ashttp://housecall.trendmicro.com/is a good one. You might also want toruna chkdsk to see if there are any problems with your hard drive. Coraleigh Miller "Ian" <I...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com... Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain appswon'tlaunch: 1) Any administrative tools 2) Event viewer 3) Services viewer 4) ISA Management Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work fine.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -

Please explain why you say SBS can't join an existing domain? There is a KB
that gives the steps to do so:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884453

"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jean Paul Mertens" <ON7AMI@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message news:ewBu1cN4HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Hello to all, I have a problem with a BDC (windows 2000 server) who does not see that the PDC (SBS 2000) is back on-line. 1. There is no such thing as a PDC and BDC in Windows 2000 or newer. There is a PDC "role" but it is not the same thing. 2. SBS cannot join an existing Domain, so having a second DC in an SBS controlled system is almost [but not quite] totally worthless. a. Rebuilding SBS and giving it the same Domain name as before only creates two *different* domains that just happen to have the same name. b. The other DC can not see the SBS as being back online on the original Domain because the SBS is not back online in the orignal Domain. It is a completely new SBS on a completely new Domain that just happens to use the same name. The proper way to have fault tolerance and recoverability with SBS is by using System-State Backups for the software side and RAID for the hardware side. The RAID itself needs to be done in Hardware and not in Windows. IMO, disaster recovery with SBS is itself a disaster and is why I would never want to run SBS. There have been third-party non-Microsoft solutions "invented" to deal with this. You may have to ask in a SBS Group to find details on that. I don''t have any links or information for that myself. -- Phillip Windell www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. -----------------------------------------------------

-Update-

I was able to install MMC 3 and it seems to have corrected the
problem. The box I was working on did not have 3 installed initially.

Hope this helps.

Phillip
Actually with SBS 2003 (and I see no reason why it wouldn't work with 2000, but the document was written for SBS 2003) you can install to an existing Active Directory network

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"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uQI1JhO4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
"Jean Paul Mertens" <ON7AMI@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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Hello to all, I have a problem with a BDC (windows 2000 server) who does not see that the PDC (SBS 2000) is back on-line.

1. There is no such thing as a PDC and BDC in Windows 2000 or newer. There
is a PDC "role" but it is not the same thing.

2. SBS cannot join an existing Domain, so having a second DC in an SBS
controlled system is almost [but not quite] totally worthless.
a. Rebuilding SBS and giving it the same Domain name as before only
creates two *different* domains that just happen to have the same name.
b. The other DC can not see the SBS as being back online on the original
Domain because the SBS is not back online in the orignal Domain. It is a
completely new SBS on a completely new Domain that just happens to use the
same name.

The proper way to have fault tolerance and recoverability with SBS is by
using System-State Backups for the software side and RAID for the hardware
side. The RAID itself needs to be done in Hardware and not in Windows. IMO,
disaster recovery with SBS is itself a disaster and is why I would never
want to run SBS.

There have been third-party non-Microsoft solutions "invented" to deal with
this. You may have to ask in a SBS Group to find details on that. I don''t
have any links or information for that myself.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

Hi XraySpecs,

Try this...

From Microsoft...
"
Conflicts that occur with previous installations
Warning Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly
by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might
require that you reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee
that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk.

This issue may occur if there is a version conflict with a previous MMC
installation. If an earlier version of MMC is installed on the computer,
remove the MMC version details from the Windows registry. To do this, follow
these steps: 1.Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2.In the left pane, locate and then expand the following registry subkey:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D5AB5662-131D-453D-88C8-9BBA87502ADE}\InprocServer32
3.Remove all the registry entries under the InprocServer32 key except for
the 3.0.0.0 entry.
4.On the File menu, click Exit.
"

Coraleigh

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Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting the MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP version is newer and won't install the downloaded version. I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is there any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the downloaded one? "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers solutions if you run into issues installing... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265 "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Try reinstalling the MMC itself ... http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4c84f80b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com... Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the problem. "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you able to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove Snap-in->Add->Event Viewer). You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a corruption or reregister whatever is wonky... For Windows 2003 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c16ae515-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en For Windows 2003 SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e487f885-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com... There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The mouse cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts. I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs. I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the system32 folder. They won't run from there either. "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one of these mcs? You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another machine's Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on as Domain Admin right-click MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your problem server.) Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc, Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and that you can run them directly from there. Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com... Thanks for the response... This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software has been added for weeks. I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps, including event viewer. I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change. A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk. Ideas? "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Hi Ian, We are going to need abit more info. Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues started occuring? Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue started occuring? Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log errors would really help us. If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu? You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online scanner such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one. You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems with your hard drive. Coraleigh Miller "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com... Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch: 1) Any administrative tools 2) Event viewer 3) Services viewer 4) ISA Management Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work fine.

So what are your suggestions for this GP? What folders do you allow and
dis-allow from the users Profile?


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Its per application, so you need to look for the application setting or registry key that allows you to relocate settings. They don't all allow it. The folders in the profile are an MS standard and obviously not everyone follows it. Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:enHN79M4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... No I do not want all my Adobe stuff roaming. How can I make it so my Adobe stuff does not continue to put stuff on the server profile? I have the profile down to 172MB. How can I get that down to the 5-25MB range? "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:eAyLEOL4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... I think the recommendation is 5MB, and 25MB max. The profile is intended to be settings, not data. The problem area is the overlap in things like Adobe thumbnails; Dreamweaver data; dictionaries etc. It should be possible to get the profile down to 25MB or less by redirecting all the data. In a few cases (Adobe is one) you may have to dispense with the roaming profile and leave it local - but do you really want all your thumbnails roaming? Hope that helps, Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it still takes awhile to log on and off. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... You have to create a GPO: USER Administrative Templates\ System\ User Profiles Exclude directories in roaming profile Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally included in the user's profile. I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is a workaround -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, but that break the roaming profile. Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the problem. Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected folder & offline sync. You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to be so big ? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the Application Data folder? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the server. Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected folder share like application data (if you are using redirected folders) -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync copy)." I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users and Computers and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's useless. Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline folder for this part. You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync copy). -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose to be set to? "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for offline. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... How big are your profiles ? any offline sync folder? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... hello, can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) any eventlog error entry ? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log into their machines. After you type in your password the message saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be available offline". My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be available offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be available offline." I see that there is another offline option that states, "All files and programs that users open from the share will be automatically available offline" it also has a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but I don't really think that is the case. Thanks -Scott

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I have seen many networks which have succesfully removed the Everyone group from the root without issue, however it was done carefully ensuring that any services using Anonymous login were accounted for as well as adding the Authenticated Users group in place of Everyone. FYI - Its not recommended to do this on an Exchange server as it needs Anonymous login for a number of processes. I would suggest that before one removes the everyone group from a server, that some research be done with regards to the functional role of the server and the possible impact of this change.

I think what he did was remove everyone from the c drive and replaced it
with users read and administrators full.

any how could not write to disk at all, could not even reinstall leaving
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Winternals ERP Commander would have been the perfect tool for you (and should be in everyone's toolkit) unfortunately Microsoft bought them and has yet to release their own version yet. (I still have my copy though, Yay! lol) If you can get a copy from someone though i can't even tell you how much aggrevation it will save you. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035-6086282.html http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/winternals.mspx Coraleigh "ThatsIT.net.au" <me@thatsit> wrote in message news:92A944A0-CDA9-4DFA-9B73-C423A5830C38@microsoft.com... "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message news:OjKC2yr3HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... "ThatsIT.net.au" <me@thatsit> wrote in message news:DB85D963-B47E-4C3A-ADBA-C7D46B1774AE@microsoft.com... "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23pAtNoe3HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Hi ThatsIT.net.au, Are you able to login using Last Known Good Config, or Safe Mode? If Last Known Good Config does not work but you are able to get into your system using Safe Mode, you can use one of these methods.. http://www.petri.co.il/change_recovery_console_password.htm to change you recovery console/directory restore password. tried them all, none worked, I just finished reinstalling, I have a day of reconfiguring ahead Now is a good time to review your backup policy. we have backups. but we could not get into machine to restore them. could not even repair as it would not copy files onto disk. A staff member changed permissions on cdrive, removed everybody group, I assume this had something to do with it

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"ThatsIT.net.au" <me@thatsit> wrote in message news:92A944A0-CDA9-4DFA-9B73-C423A5830C38@microsoft.com... "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message news:OjKC2yr3HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... "ThatsIT.net.au" <me@thatsit> wrote in message news:DB85D963-B47E-4C3A-ADBA-C7D46B1774AE@microsoft.com... "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23pAtNoe3HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Hi ThatsIT.net.au, Are you able to login using Last Known Good Config, or Safe Mode? If Last Known Good Config does not work but you are able to get into your system using Safe Mode, you can use one of these methods.. http://www.petri.co.il/change_recovery_console_password.htm to change you recovery console/directory restore password. tried them all, none worked, I just finished reinstalling, I have a day of reconfiguring ahead Now is a good time to review your backup policy. we have backups. but we could not get into machine to restore them. could not even repair as it would not copy files onto disk. A staff member changed permissions on cdrive, removed everybody group, I assume this had something to do with it A backup facility is only as good as the subsequent restore process. If you are unable to restore the System State then I suspect that your backup was never been tested and that its usefulness is limited.

The system state is fine, all the backs ups are in tact

But we can not log on or copy anything to disk, not in safe mode not in
directory restore mode not in recovery mode.

in recovery mode the console will accept one character then keyboard will
not work

There are several third-party products

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that let you restore anything, regardless of the state of your machine, Acronis being one of them.

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Sorry that should be 'dcpromo /forceremoval'

Thank you worked fine

I've always been told by everyone that it wouldn't. I don't run it myself. I
didn't know that article existed,...I was under the impression that SBS did
not even posses "dcpromo.exe"

What about SBS2000?

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Please explain why you say SBS can't join an existing domain? There is a KB that gives the steps to do so: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884453 "Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uQI1JhO4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... "Jean Paul Mertens" <ON7AMI@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message news:ewBu1cN4HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Hello to all, I have a problem with a BDC (windows 2000 server) who does not see that the PDC (SBS 2000) is back on-line. 1. There is no such thing as a PDC and BDC in Windows 2000 or newer. There is a PDC "role" but it is not the same thing. 2. SBS cannot join an existing Domain, so having a second DC in an SBS controlled system is almost [but not quite] totally worthless. a. Rebuilding SBS and giving it the same Domain name as before only creates two *different* domains that just happen to have the same name. b. The other DC can not see the SBS as being back online on the original Domain because the SBS is not back online in the orignal Domain. It is a completely new SBS on a completely new Domain that just happens to use the same name. The proper way to have fault tolerance and recoverability with SBS is by using System-State Backups for the software side and RAID for the hardware side. The RAID itself needs to be done in Hardware and not in Windows. IMO, disaster recovery with SBS is itself a disaster and is why I would never want to run SBS. There have been third-party non-Microsoft solutions "invented" to deal with this. You may have to ask in a SBS Group to find details on that. I don''t have any links or information for that myself. -- Phillip Windell www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. -----------------------------------------------------

I didn't even know they where the same thing... I thought TimeServ was a w2k
thing for old NT4 domains... didn't know it was event used now for w2k3
domains

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Hello Smokey, Answer is on your second post, please do not post the same question/content more often. Best regards Meinolf Weber (Myweb) Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. I am getting these every minute in our windows 2000 cluster event log The description for Event ID ( 22 ) in Source ( TimeServ ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: The event log file is corrupt.. any idea how to fix this? Its been going on for months now... thanks!

Sorry,
Steve posted an article on this. I never knew that was possible. I'd always
been told by others that it could not do so. I don't run it myself.
Someone came up with some kind of complex third-party thing to deal with
this stuff, and now I don't undserstand why all that was needed if SBS can
do this so easily and naturally on its own. I'm not disapointed of course,
if I ever have to deal with it then it will be easier to deal with than I
thought.

I guess this a good example why why people should not cross-post their
question all over the place and stick to the correct groups. Then they'd get
the correct answer from the right people who know best in the first place.


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www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.

"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@computingnospampossibilities.net>
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Phillip
Actually with SBS 2003 (and I see no reason why it wouldn't work with 2000,
but the document was written for SBS 2003) you can install to an existing
Active Directory network

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Hello to all, I have a problem with a BDC (windows 2000 server) who does not see that the PDC (SBS 2000) is back on-line.

1. There is no such thing as a PDC and BDC in Windows 2000 or newer. There
is a PDC "role" but it is not the same thing.

2. SBS cannot join an existing Domain, so having a second DC in an SBS
controlled system is almost [but not quite] totally worthless.
a. Rebuilding SBS and giving it the same Domain name as before only
creates two *different* domains that just happen to have the same name.
b. The other DC can not see the SBS as being back online on the original
Domain because the SBS is not back online in the orignal Domain. It is a
completely new SBS on a completely new Domain that just happens to use the
same name.

The proper way to have fault tolerance and recoverability with SBS is by
using System-State Backups for the software side and RAID for the hardware
side. The RAID itself needs to be done in Hardware and not in Windows. IMO,
disaster recovery with SBS is itself a disaster and is why I would never
want to run SBS.

There have been third-party non-Microsoft solutions "invented" to deal with
this. You may have to ask in a SBS Group to find details on that. I don''t
have any links or information for that myself.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

As Cris says I think that SBS 2000 could also join a domain in the same way
but I haven't even thought about that version for about 4 years.

Steve

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I've always been told by everyone that it wouldn't. I don't run it myself. I didn't know that article existed,...I was under the impression that SBS did not even posses "dcpromo.exe" What about SBS2000? -- Phillip Windell www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- "Steve" <newsgroup@public.lan> wrote in message news:%23DeXz4O4HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Please explain why you say SBS can't join an existing domain? There is a KB that gives the steps to do so: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884453 "Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uQI1JhO4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... "Jean Paul Mertens" <ON7AMI@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message news:ewBu1cN4HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Hello to all, I have a problem with a BDC (windows 2000 server) who does not see that the PDC (SBS 2000) is back on-line. 1. There is no such thing as a PDC and BDC in Windows 2000 or newer. There is a PDC "role" but it is not the same thing. 2. SBS cannot join an existing Domain, so having a second DC in an SBS controlled system is almost [but not quite] totally worthless. a. Rebuilding SBS and giving it the same Domain name as before only creates two *different* domains that just happen to have the same name. b. The other DC can not see the SBS as being back online on the original Domain because the SBS is not back online in the orignal Domain. It is a completely new SBS on a completely new Domain that just happens to use the same name. The proper way to have fault tolerance and recoverability with SBS is by using System-State Backups for the software side and RAID for the hardware side. The RAID itself needs to be done in Hardware and not in Windows. IMO, disaster recovery with SBS is itself a disaster and is why I would never want to run SBS. There have been third-party non-Microsoft solutions "invented" to deal with this. You may have to ask in a SBS Group to find details on that. I don''t have any links or information for that myself. -- Phillip Windell www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. -----------------------------------------------------

Hi Adam,

Some people have found that the Event ID you have is resolved by this
Microsoft article... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898060/

Coraleigh Miller

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Sorry a little more info on this problem We are running a Windows 2003 SP1 network. Desktops are all windows XP SP2. With all updated security patches on server and desktop side. I have also looked into KB913446 MS06-007 as this may lead to issues with connectivity. All my servers have this update as well as a new one that is also getting the errors as well. Thanks Adam Raff "Adam Raff" <araff@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message news:Ovn8tUO4HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Good Day, Over the few months we have been having an ongoing issue with the following error messages and they appear on all of our servers. Event Type: Warning Event Source: Srv Event Category: None Event ID: 2012 Date: 8/17/2007 Time: 2:18:26 AM User: N/A Computer: HSMAIN Description: While transmitting or receiving data, the server encountered a network error. Occassional errors are expected, but large amounts of these indicate a possible error in your network configuration. The error status code is contained within the returned data (formatted as Words) and may point you towards the problem. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: 00040000 00540001 00000000 800007dc 0010: 00000000 c0000184 00000000 00000000 0020: 00000000 00000000 0000097a I have looked at this from so many ways but I can not find the point of the error. You see the problem goes away on weekends. We pretty much turn off all desktops but all servers and printer (network connected) and switches stay on. I thought that it was a desktop and checked over all the desktops and identified some that may have bad Nics. After fixing them I am still getting errors but again they disappear over the weekend. The error message says to look in the error code which may point me in the right direction but I can not make heads or tails out to the error message. If somebody knows how to read this and point me in the right direction it would be a great help. Thank You Adam Raff

Tried that, and I still get the version error even after deleting the reg
entries. That seems to be more for the snapins than the main console.

I've run out of ideas, do you have any more?

"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

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Hi XraySpecs, Try this... From Microsoft... " Conflicts that occur with previous installations Warning Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might require that you reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk. This issue may occur if there is a version conflict with a previous MMC installation. If an earlier version of MMC is installed on the computer, remove the MMC version details from the Windows registry. To do this, follow these steps: 1.Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK. 2.In the left pane, locate and then expand the following registry subkey: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D5AB5662-131D-453D-88C8-9BBA87502ADE}\InprocServer32 3.Remove all the registry entries under the InprocServer32 key except for the 3.0.0.0 entry. 4.On the File menu, click Exit. " Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E73A0F68-3EE1-463C-A135-5DD987F2D6EC@microsoft.com... Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting the MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP version is newer and won't install the downloaded version. I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is there any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the downloaded one? "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers solutions if you run into issues installing... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265 "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Try reinstalling the MMC itself ... http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4c84f80b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com... Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the problem. "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you able to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove Snap-in->Add->Event Viewer). You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a corruption or reregister whatever is wonky... For Windows 2003 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c16ae515-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en For Windows 2003 SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e487f885-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com... There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The mouse cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts. I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs. I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the system32 folder. They won't run from there either. "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one of these mcs? You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another machine's Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on as Domain Admin right-click MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your problem server.) Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc, Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and that you can run them directly from there. Coraleigh "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com... Thanks for the response... This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software has been added for weeks. I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps, including event viewer. I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change. A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk. Ideas? "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: Hi Ian, We are going to need abit more info. Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues started occuring? Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue started occuring? Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log errors would really help us. If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu? You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online scanner such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one. You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems with your hard drive. Coraleigh Miller "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com... Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch: 1) Any administrative tools 2) Event viewer 3) Services viewer 4) ISA Management Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work fine.