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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Sharing xp folders on XP using VISTA Reply with quote

flambe wrote:
Quote:
Simplest solution:
Take Sony notebook.
Backup all needed files.
Reformat hard drive.
Install Windows XP.
Voila: all problems solved. You can actually do work instead of futzing with
a defective OS.


hehehe...obviously you have been "mastered" by Vista...LOL!

Frank
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Desktop Heap Allocation Failed Reply with quote

Dear friend,
I was solving the same problem today. Thanks to your article I could
see I am not the only one in trouble. I have Vista, 2GM of memory and
another 4GB of virtual memory on disk. When the problem occured I could
see in Performance monitor that I was using less then half of internal
memory.
Finally I found it

IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE NEXT PROCESS OR YOU HAVE SOME DOUBTS GET
MORE INFO AT
'PRB: User32.dll or Kernel32.dll fails to initialize'
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184802)
and
'FIX: (Vista/XP/Server 2003): Desktop heap exhausted? Windows cannot
open a new window, app, tab, menu etc.? - Notebook Forums and Laptop
Discussion' (http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=177272)

IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND STILL DO NOT TRY OTHERWISE YOU RISK YOU WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO BOOT ANY MORE :|

It is possible to change in the registry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\SubSystems\

in the key Windows this part
SharedSection=1024,3072,512
to
SharedSection=1024,4096,512

and leave the rest of the key as it is.
Finally reboot.

After the change I could open 50 windows instead of 37 of the same web
page. DO NOT TRY TO SET OTHER/HIGHER VALUES IT IS NOT WORTH THE RISK.
(If you experience some problems after this change, you can try to
return the original value.)
The problem is not that the computer would not have enough memory. For
some optimization reasons there is only limited memory/heap to store
system data about user objects. It has nothing to do with 2GB.
When you fill up this buffer by openning a lot of windows, the problem
occurs.
You have to close something to open new windows, tabs etc. Its just as
you describe, if you close 3 windows you can open another 3.
Reboot does not help in this case. (Only when you close some windows
and you are still unable to open new one it is worth to reboot. But this
is caused usually by buggy application.)

There used to be administrative tool Resource meter in Windows 95
showing % of used system resources. But I could not find anything
similar in Vista.

GOOD LUCK
TN
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Bikini Browser
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Sharing xp folders on XP using VISTA Reply with quote

Are you saying that Sony can be the problem here?


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"flambe" <fac187@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bBolj.90$0w.30@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
Quote:
Simplest solution:
Take Sony notebook.
Backup all needed files.
Reformat hard drive.
Install Windows XP.
Voila: all problems solved. You can actually do work instead of futzing
with a defective OS.
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SpaceHitchhiker
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Desktop Heap Allocation Failed Reply with quote

Dear friend,
I was solving the same problem today. Thanks to your article I could
see I am not the only one in trouble. I have Vista, 2GM of memory and
another 4GB of virtual memory on disk. When the problem occured I could
see in Performance monitor that I was using less then half of internal
memory.
Finally I found it

IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE NEXT PROCESS OR YOU HAVE SOME DOUBTS GET
MORE INFO AT
'PRB: User32.dll or Kernel32.dll fails to initialize'
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184802)
and
'FIX: (Vista/XP/Server 2003): Desktop heap exhausted? Windows cannot
open a new window, app, tab, menu etc.? - Notebook Forums and Laptop
Discussion' (http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=177272)

IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND STILL DO NOT TRY OTHERWISE YOU RISK YOU WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO BOOT ANY MORE :|

It is possible to change in the registry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\SubSystems\

in the key Windows this part
SharedSection=1024,3072,512
to
SharedSection=1024,4096,512

and leave the rest of the key as it is.
Finally reboot.

After the change I could open 50 windows instead of 37 of the same web
page. DO NOT TRY TO SET OTHER/HIGHER VALUES IT IS NOT WORTH THE RISK.
(If you experience some problems after this change, you can try to
return the original value.)
The problem is not that the computer would not have enough memory. For
some optimization reasons there is only limited memory/heap to store
system data about user objects. It has nothing to do with 2GB.
When you fill up this buffer by openning a lot of windows, the problem
occurs.
You have to close something to open new windows, tabs etc. Its just as
you describe, if you close 3 windows you can open another 3.
Reboot does not help in this case. (Only when you close some windows
and you are still unable to open new one it is worth to reboot. But this
is caused usually by buggy application.)

There used to be administrative tool Resource meter in Windows 95
showing % of used system resources. But I could not find anything
similar in Vista.

GOOD LUCK
TN


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Sigma Tel update kills sound Reply with quote

oldfogie;368277 Wrote:
Quote:
I have home premium, upgraded from home basic.
Yesterday MS notified 4 updates available, 3 were Microsoft and 1 was
SigmaTel high definition audio codec. I installed the updates.
But the speaker icon when moused over now said "no audio output device
installed", and there was no sound. (Before, said high definition audio

device.)
I restored back to just before the update, and sound was back to
normal.
Anyone have an explanation or solution for this?

How, exactly, do you go back and restore back to just before the
update?


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Bikini Browser
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Sharing xp folders on XP using VISTA Reply with quote

FYI:

I did your steps but I was not successful. However I also tryed this and
had some amount of success...

I created a TEST folder on the XP and then I shared it and gave it all
permissions. Then I created a text file in that folder. Then I went to the
vista computer and I was actually able to open the file. Thats the first
time I could do that.

Then I copied two smalll files from Vista to the new Test folder on XP and
that worked too.

But when I try to open those files, it times out.

It seems to act like there are too many files on my production shared folder
and perhaps the XP is so slow it times out on the Vista before it finishes
seeing the folder tree...?? Can it be something like that?

BB
<sganpat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1e10842e-eb90-4fe8-9dd2-3536fec5a55d@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Ok. Then do the registry edit for the vista client and the console
edit for XP.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\LSA\

Change the key LmCompatibilityLevel from "3" to "1".

Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869 for details.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Sharing xp folders on XP using VISTA Reply with quote

"Also ensure that "Network Access: Sharing and Security Model for local
accounts" is set to classic."


How do you do this in the registery on Vista?

BB




"Sachin" <pmpmailbox-news@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:479557E0.9060200@yahoo.com...
Quote:
Hmmmm, seems like they did everything correctly.

Try this. Go to the Local Security Settings in Administrative Tools for
both the XP and Vista machines.

Go to Local Policies --> Security Options.

Scroll down to "Network Security: LAN Manager Authentication Level".

Ensure that both the Vista and XP clients match up. Use "Send NTMLv2
response only".

Also ensure that "Network Access: Sharing and Security Model for local
accounts" is set to classic.


Bikini Browser wrote:
Hello...

I Have a problem that even Microsoft Esculation departmen't cant seem to
fix at this time...

I have Windows XP professional with SP2 on an old slow desktop computer
connected via 100mb Ethernet Cable to a speedtouch DSL router.

I only have two compters on the network. The other computer is a brand
new Sony Vaio laptop with Window Vista Home Premium, with all service
packs applied. It is connected wireless via the SpeedTouch DSL Router.

The XP can Ping the Vista and the Vista can ping the XP. The XP can
browse all folders on the vista and open documents and all is well in
that direction.

The Vista can see the XP Computer and can see the shared folders on it as
well as the printers, but if you try to open the folders that you see,
you get an error message that says you probobly don't have the proper
security permissions. It hangs there for 3 or 4 minutes before it
produces that error.

Microsoft technicians in India did the following..

Turned off Simple file sharing in XP so now we can see the security and
sharing permissions tabs.

Took ownership of all shared folders and child objects.on XP.

Verifed that Group Everyone has full contril permissions to all shared
folders and child objects.

Inherited Permissions on the Advanced tab.

Turned off All the firewalls.
Turned off all Anti Virus programs

Changed the user name and password on the Vista box to match the user
name of the XP and changed both workgroup names to match each other.

Even after all of that, we still cannot see the child objects within
shared folders.

WE COULD see them on the same XP computer when we were using anohter XP
box versus the new Vista Box.

And I have don't this before at another cusztomers site without problems
using a Compaq Vista box with Vista Business Edition on it before.

Does anyone have any ideas what do do next?

Bikini Browser
San Juan Puerto Rico



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Gnome
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: IE 7 stackhash errors and ntdll.dll could be involved Reply with quote

'I think, therefore I Code...: [\"Windows Live Messenger\" or \"Windows
Media Player\"] has stopped working - APPCRASH / StackHash Error - Fix'
(http://tinyurl.com/2a2w7u)
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Curt
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: online problems: lag on online games and very slow downl Reply with quote

Is network discovery on?

"~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:." <makaveli213@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23LhbZaPXIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Well my first suggestion would be to install the Vista drivers again.
From there you can try to force install the XP driver. Just download
them. Right click on them and use the Compatibility tab and run it under
XP SP2 and see if they install and work for you. If not contact DLink to
find out if and when they plan on getting out new drivers.

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.:~A.K.A. Makaveli213~:.
.:MVP Windows Shell/User:.

"Iskevosi" <Iskevosi.33l1j8@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:Iskevosi.33l1j8@no-mx.forums.net...

Hi there, I am having the smae issue with playing online games, such as
Vanguard too. I could be half way through a fight and the whole thing
hangs for a moment or two. When it comes back I found that the rest of
my group have killed the target and moved onto the next mob 20m away.
:mad:

The one thing we have in commong id the D-Link DWL-G122. Now I am
running Vista x64 and there are NO drivers on the D-Link site that match
the my Revision C version 3.10 model. There are drivers for version
3.01 but only XP drivers for 3.10. So I did some hunting on the Internet
and found some drivers. Now these seem to work but not that well. I
still have the same issues.

I am now getting close to ordering a new USB WiFi dongle.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: RE: ANS: "What's the deal with UAC (Windows Needs Your Permi Reply with quote

I am trying to install office 2007. The launcher says that it must be run by
an administrator. When I right click on this file in the dvd drive there is
no choice that says run as administrator. Now what??

"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

Quote:
Hello,

I've noticed that a lot of the questions in these newsgroups are either
directly or indirectly related to UAC (User Account Control). In this post,
I will go over what UAC does, how it works, the reasoning behind it, how to
use your computer with UAC on, why you shouldn't turn UAC off, and answer
some common questions and respond to common complaints about it.


* What is UAC and what does it do?

UAC mode (also known as Admin Approval Mode) is a mode of operation that
(primarily) affects the way administrator accounts work.

When UAC is turned on (which it is by default), you must explicitly give
permission to any program that wants to use "administrator" powers. Any
program that tries to use admin powers without your permission will be
denied access.


* How does UAC work

When UAC mode is enabled, every program that you run will be given only
"standard user" access to the system, even when you are logged in as an
administrator. There are only 2 ways that a program can be "elevated" to get
full admin access to the system:

- If it automatically asks you for permission when it starts up, and you
click Continue
- If you start the program with permission by right-clicking it, then
clicking Run As Administrator

A program either starts with STANDARD rights or, if you give permission,
ADMINISTRATOR rights, and once the program is running it cannot change from
one to the other.

If a program that you have already started with admin powers starts another
program, that program will automatically be given admin powers without
needing your permission. For example, if you start Windows Explorer as
administrator, and then double-click on a text file, notepad will open and
display the contents of the text file. Since notepad was opened from the
admin explorer window, notepad WILL ALSO automatically run WITH admin
powers, and will not ask for permission.


* What's the point of UAC?

UAC is designed to put control of your computer back into your hands,
instead of at the mercy of the programs running on your computer.

When logged in as an administrator in Windows XP, any program that could
somehow get itself started could take control of the entire computer without
you even knowing about it.

With UAC turned on, you must know about and authorize a program in order for
it to gain admin access to the system, REGARDLESS of how the program got
there or how it is started.

This is important to all levels of users - from home users to enterprise
administrators. Being alerted when any program tries to use admin powers and
being able to unilaterally disallow a program from having such power is a
VERY powerful ability. No longer is the security of the system tantamount to
"crossing one's fingers and hoping for the best" - YOU now control your
system.


* How do I effectively use my computer with UAC turned on?

It's easy. Just keep in mind that programs don't have admin access to your
computer unless you give them permission. Microsoft programs that come with
Windows Vista that need admin access will always ask for admin permissions
when you start them. However, most other programs will not.

This will change after Windows Vista is released - all Windows Vista-era
programs that need admin power will always ask you for it. Until then, you
will need to run programs that need administrative powers that were not
designed for Windows Vista "as administrator".

Command-line programs do not automatically ask for permission. Not even the
built-in ones. You will need to run the command prompt "as administrator" in
order to run administrative command-line utilities.

Working with files and folders from Windows Explorer can be a real pain when
you are not working with your own files. When you are needing to work with
system files, files that you didn't create, or files from another operating
system, run Windows Explorer "as administrator". In the same vein, ANY
program that you run that needs access to system files or files that you
didn't create will need to be ran "as administrator".

If you are going to be working with the control panel for a long time,
running control.exe "as administrator" will make things less painful - you
will only be asked for permission once, instead of every time you try to
change a system-wide setting.

In short:

- Run command prompt as admin when you need to run admin utilities
- Run setup programs as admin
- Run programs not designed for Vista as admin if (and only if) they need
admin access
- Run Windows Explorer as admin when you need access to files that aren't
yours or system files
- Run programs that need access to files that aren't yours or system files
as admin
- Run control.exe as admin when changing many settings in the control panel


* UAC is annoying, I want to turn it off

Having to go through an extra step (clicking Continue) when opening
administrative programs is annoying. And it is also very frustrating to run
a program that needs admin power but doesn't automatically ask you for it
(you have to right-click these programs and click Run As Administrator for
them to run correctly).

But, keep in mind that these small inconveniences are insignificant when
weighed against the benefit: NO PROGRAM can get full access to your system
without you being informed. The first time the permission dialog pops up and
it is from some program that you know nothing about or that you do not want
to have access to your system, you will be very glad that the Cancel button
was available to you.


* Answers to common questions and responses to common criticism

Q: I have anti-virus, a firewall, a spyware-detector, or something similar.
Why do I need UAC?

A: Detectors can only see known threats. And of all the known threats in
existence, they only detect the most common of those threats. With UAC
turned on, *you* control what programs have access to your computer - you
can stop ALL threats. Detectors are nice, but they're not enough. How many
people do you know that have detectors of all kinds and yet are still
infested with programs that they don't want on their computer? Everyone that
I have ever helped falls into this category.


Q: Does UAC replace anti-virus, a firewall, a spyware-detector, or similar
programs?

A: No. Microsoft recommends that you use a virus scanner and/or other types
of security software. These types of programs compliment UAC: They will get
rid of known threats for you. UAC will allow you to stop unknown threats, as
well as prevent any program that you do not trust from gaining access to
your computer.


Q: I am a system administrator - I have no use for UAC.

A: Really? You don't NEED to know when a program on your computer runs with
admin powers? You are a system administrator and you really could care less
when a program runs that has full control of your system, and possibly your
entire domain? You're joking, right?


Q: UAC keeps me from accessing files and folders

A: No, it doesn't - UAC protects you from programs that would try to delete
or modify system files and folders without your knowledge. If you want a
program to have full access to the files on your computer, you will need to
run it as admin. Or as an alternative, if possible, put the files it needs
access to in a place that all programs have access to - such as your
documents folder, or any folder under your user folder.


Q: UAC stops programs from working correctly

A: If a program needs admin power and it doesn't ask you for permission when
it starts, you have to give it admin powers by right-clicking it and
clicking Run As Administrator. Programs should work like they did in XP when
you use Run As Administrator. If they don't, then this is a bug.


Q: UAC keeps me from doing things that I could do in XP

A: This is not the case. Just remember that programs that do not ask for
permission when they start do not get admin access to your computer. If you
are using a tool that needs admin access, right-click it and click Run As
Administrator. It should work exactly as it did in XP. If it does not, then
this is a bug.


Q: UAC is Microsoft's way of controlling my computer and preventing me from
using it!

A: This is 100% UNTRUE. UAC puts control of your computer IN YOUR HANDS by
allowing you to prevent unwanted programs from accessing your computer.
*Everything* that you can do with UAC turned off, you can do with it turned
on. If this is not the case, then that is a bug.


Q: I don't need Windows to hold my freaking hand! I *know* what I've got on
my computer, and I *know* when programs run! I am logged on as an
ADMINISTRATOR for a dang reason!

A: I accept the way that you think, and can see the logic, but I don't agree
with this idea. UAC is putting POWER in your hands by letting you CONTROL
what runs on your system. But you want to give up this control and allow all
programs to run willy-nilly. Look, if you want to do this go right ahead,
you can turn UAC off and things will return to how they worked in XP. But,
don't be surprised when either 1) You run something by mistake that messes
up your computer and/or domain, or 2) A program somehow gets on your
computer that you know nothing about that takes over your computer and/or
domain, and UAC would have allowed you to have stopped it.


- JB

Vista Support FAQ
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: ANS: "What's the deal with UAC (Windows Needs Your Permi Reply with quote

Login to an account that is a member of the administrators group.

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CarGodZeroOne@hotmail.com
Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
"Steffer" <Steffer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:733766B8-6EFD-4D51-B5C9-49277DFFBB54@microsoft.com...
Quote:
I am trying to install office 2007. The launcher says that it must be run
by
an administrator. When I right click on this file in the dvd drive there
is
no choice that says run as administrator. Now what??

"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

Hello,

I've noticed that a lot of the questions in these newsgroups are either
directly or indirectly related to UAC (User Account Control). In this
post,
I will go over what UAC does, how it works, the reasoning behind it, how
to
use your computer with UAC on, why you shouldn't turn UAC off, and answer
some common questions and respond to common complaints about it.


* What is UAC and what does it do?

UAC mode (also known as Admin Approval Mode) is a mode of operation that
(primarily) affects the way administrator accounts work.

When UAC is turned on (which it is by default), you must explicitly give
permission to any program that wants to use "administrator" powers. Any
program that tries to use admin powers without your permission will be
denied access.


* How does UAC work

When UAC mode is enabled, every program that you run will be given only
"standard user" access to the system, even when you are logged in as an
administrator. There are only 2 ways that a program can be "elevated" to
get
full admin access to the system:

- If it automatically asks you for permission when it starts up, and you
click Continue
- If you start the program with permission by right-clicking it, then
clicking Run As Administrator

A program either starts with STANDARD rights or, if you give permission,
ADMINISTRATOR rights, and once the program is running it cannot change
from
one to the other.

If a program that you have already started with admin powers starts
another
program, that program will automatically be given admin powers without
needing your permission. For example, if you start Windows Explorer as
administrator, and then double-click on a text file, notepad will open
and
display the contents of the text file. Since notepad was opened from the
admin explorer window, notepad WILL ALSO automatically run WITH admin
powers, and will not ask for permission.


* What's the point of UAC?

UAC is designed to put control of your computer back into your hands,
instead of at the mercy of the programs running on your computer.

When logged in as an administrator in Windows XP, any program that could
somehow get itself started could take control of the entire computer
without
you even knowing about it.

With UAC turned on, you must know about and authorize a program in order
for
it to gain admin access to the system, REGARDLESS of how the program got
there or how it is started.

This is important to all levels of users - from home users to enterprise
administrators. Being alerted when any program tries to use admin powers
and
being able to unilaterally disallow a program from having such power is a
VERY powerful ability. No longer is the security of the system tantamount
to
"crossing one's fingers and hoping for the best" - YOU now control your
system.


* How do I effectively use my computer with UAC turned on?

It's easy. Just keep in mind that programs don't have admin access to
your
computer unless you give them permission. Microsoft programs that come
with
Windows Vista that need admin access will always ask for admin
permissions
when you start them. However, most other programs will not.

This will change after Windows Vista is released - all Windows Vista-era
programs that need admin power will always ask you for it. Until then,
you
will need to run programs that need administrative powers that were not
designed for Windows Vista "as administrator".

Command-line programs do not automatically ask for permission. Not even
the
built-in ones. You will need to run the command prompt "as administrator"
in
order to run administrative command-line utilities.

Working with files and folders from Windows Explorer can be a real pain
when
you are not working with your own files. When you are needing to work
with
system files, files that you didn't create, or files from another
operating
system, run Windows Explorer "as administrator". In the same vein, ANY
program that you run that needs access to system files or files that you
didn't create will need to be ran "as administrator".

If you are going to be working with the control panel for a long time,
running control.exe "as administrator" will make things less painful -
you
will only be asked for permission once, instead of every time you try to
change a system-wide setting.

In short:

- Run command prompt as admin when you need to run admin utilities
- Run setup programs as admin
- Run programs not designed for Vista as admin if (and only if) they need
admin access
- Run Windows Explorer as admin when you need access to files that aren't
yours or system files
- Run programs that need access to files that aren't yours or system
files
as admin
- Run control.exe as admin when changing many settings in the control
panel


* UAC is annoying, I want to turn it off

Having to go through an extra step (clicking Continue) when opening
administrative programs is annoying. And it is also very frustrating to
run
a program that needs admin power but doesn't automatically ask you for it
(you have to right-click these programs and click Run As Administrator
for
them to run correctly).

But, keep in mind that these small inconveniences are insignificant when
weighed against the benefit: NO PROGRAM can get full access to your
system
without you being informed. The first time the permission dialog pops up
and
it is from some program that you know nothing about or that you do not
want
to have access to your system, you will be very glad that the Cancel
button
was available to you.


* Answers to common questions and responses to common criticism

Q: I have anti-virus, a firewall, a spyware-detector, or something
similar.
Why do I need UAC?

A: Detectors can only see known threats. And of all the known threats in
existence, they only detect the most common of those threats. With UAC
turned on, *you* control what programs have access to your computer - you
can stop ALL threats. Detectors are nice, but they're not enough. How
many
people do you know that have detectors of all kinds and yet are still
infested with programs that they don't want on their computer? Everyone
that
I have ever helped falls into this category.


Q: Does UAC replace anti-virus, a firewall, a spyware-detector, or
similar
programs?

A: No. Microsoft recommends that you use a virus scanner and/or other
types
of security software. These types of programs compliment UAC: They will
get
rid of known threats for you. UAC will allow you to stop unknown threats,
as
well as prevent any program that you do not trust from gaining access to
your computer.


Q: I am a system administrator - I have no use for UAC.

A: Really? You don't NEED to know when a program on your computer runs
with
admin powers? You are a system administrator and you really could care
less
when a program runs that has full control of your system, and possibly
your
entire domain? You're joking, right?


Q: UAC keeps me from accessing files and folders

A: No, it doesn't - UAC protects you from programs that would try to
delete
or modify system files and folders without your knowledge. If you want a
program to have full access to the files on your computer, you will need
to
run it as admin. Or as an alternative, if possible, put the files it
needs
access to in a place that all programs have access to - such as your
documents folder, or any folder under your user folder.


Q: UAC stops programs from working correctly

A: If a program needs admin power and it doesn't ask you for permission
when
it starts, you have to give it admin powers by right-clicking it and
clicking Run As Administrator. Programs should work like they did in XP
when
you use Run As Administrator. If they don't, then this is a bug.


Q: UAC keeps me from doing things that I could do in XP

A: This is not the case. Just remember that programs that do not ask for
permission when they start do not get admin access to your computer. If
you
are using a tool that needs admin access, right-click it and click Run As
Administrator. It should work exactly as it did in XP. If it does not,
then
this is a bug.


Q: UAC is Microsoft's way of controlling my computer and preventing me
from
using it!

A: This is 100% UNTRUE. UAC puts control of your computer IN YOUR HANDS
by
allowing you to prevent unwanted programs from accessing your computer.
*Everything* that you can do with UAC turned off, you can do with it
turned
on. If this is not the case, then that is a bug.


Q: I don't need Windows to hold my freaking hand! I *know* what I've got
on
my computer, and I *know* when programs run! I am logged on as an
ADMINISTRATOR for a dang reason!

A: I accept the way that you think, and can see the logic, but I don't
agree
with this idea. UAC is putting POWER in your hands by letting you CONTROL
what runs on your system. But you want to give up this control and allow
all
programs to run willy-nilly. Look, if you want to do this go right ahead,
you can turn UAC off and things will return to how they worked in XP.
But,
don't be surprised when either 1) You run something by mistake that
messes
up your computer and/or domain, or 2) A program somehow gets on your
computer that you know nothing about that takes over your computer and/or
domain, and UAC would have allowed you to have stopped it.


- JB

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: hardware may not support booting to this disk Reply with quote

There must be another reason this also happens.
Both of my drives are configured and have partitions.
XP was able to boot from them just fine...
The primary partition was removed and re-created for the installation
of Vista.
The secondary partition still contains data and has not been changed.
Any other suggestions? I'm really stuck.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: XDA Mini S Reply with quote

I too have a problem with vista and the xda. The PC appeared to be preloaded
with the Mobile Device Centre, recognised the device but failed to sync
twice. It then synced the wrong way ie PC to device and deleted all my
emails. System restore recovered them, twice!! I've updated the Device Centre
but am reluctant to risk my emails again as I don't understand why System
Restore recovers them. Thoughts on the sync problem?

"XDA Issues" wrote:

Quote:
Thanks. I re installed it all again and this did the trick.

"Paul Smith" wrote:

"XDA Issues" <XDA Issues@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hi I have an XDA Mini S and i have tried to install it on my PC (Windows
Vista Ultimate) But the PC is not recongnising it. It has installed
Microsoft
Windows Mobile Remote Adapter, Pocket PC USB Sync but is still looking for
the drivers for everything else (Inidentified Device) any idea on what i
can
do to get the PC to recognise the phone?

No issues with that phone here. Have you grabbed Windows Mobile Device
Center from Windows Update?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Re: Sharing xp folders on XP using VISTA Reply with quote

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\ForceGuest

Set to 0 for classic.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: Sharing xp folders on XP using VISTA Reply with quote

I think it would be unlikely that XP is too slow to see the tree, also
if this was the cause, then it would not have been able to see the files
or copy it.

Just to verify, you still have the firewall and anti-virus disabled right?

Sachin

Bikini Browser wrote:
Quote:
FYI:

I did your steps but I was not successful. However I also tryed this
and had some amount of success...

I created a TEST folder on the XP and then I shared it and gave it all
permissions. Then I created a text file in that folder. Then I went to
the vista computer and I was actually able to open the file. Thats the
first time I could do that.

Then I copied two smalll files from Vista to the new Test folder on XP
and that worked too.

But when I try to open those files, it times out.

It seems to act like there are too many files on my production shared
folder and perhaps the XP is so slow it times out on the Vista before it
finishes seeing the folder tree...?? Can it be something like that?

BB
sganpat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1e10842e-eb90-4fe8-9dd2-3536fec5a55d@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
Ok. Then do the registry edit for the vista client and the console
edit for XP.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\LSA\

Change the key LmCompatibilityLevel from "3" to "1".

Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869 for details.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: Vista and Norton Ghost 12 Reply with quote

I use the products from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/index.htm

You would be interested in IFD (Image For DOS). I have used their products
now since 2001.
You can try the trial version. You extract it after you download it. You run
the makedisk.exe file and creates a bootable floppy or a bootable CD since
some computers don't have a floppy drive. If you make a CD and are going to
send the image to CD or DVD and the computer only has one ROM drive, you can
still use it. When you get to the point where it asks you insert a blank CD
or DVD, you then take out the Image For DOS CD and then insert the media you
are using and continue.

After it boots, you can create an image to another partition, to a DVD or
CD, external USB drive.

When you want to install or restore the image, just put in the DVD or CD it
made and it will boot to it and start the restore. Not really sure if the
trial version can do a restore after 30 days.

So check it out and I think you will be pleased with it. Sure beats Ghost
and all the others and plus you can't beat the price.

Good Luck,
Ed.


"Bepps" <Bepps.33lifd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Hi Sam,

I'M AFTER THE SAME THING AS YOU.
WORKING WITH LOTS OF COMPUTERS FOR ALL KINDS OF USERS *I NEED A PROGRAM
THAT I CAN BOOT FROM CD AND CREATE IMAGES* OF LAPTOPS, AS WELL AS
RESTORING FROM USB-DRIVE ETC.

LATELY I TRIED NORTON GHOST 10 (AN OLDER VERSION THAN THE NEW 12).
*THE NORTON GHOST 10 CD IS BY DEFAULT BOOTABLE.
ALTHOUGH I LEARNED THIS:
1. IT TAKES ALMOST 5 MINUTES TO BOOT IT AND GET TO RECOVER CONSOLE.
2. IT CAN'T CREATE AN IMAGE, ONLY RESTORE.

Yesterday a work colleague told me Norton had a new version out; 12.
So, I read a few lines on their web site and I read on one of the news:
"Lights Out Disaster Console - no need for boot CD".
OK - I wont ever get a boot CD that works, I thought to myself, and
continued to google for Norton - and found this Forum.

I got really dissapointed when your post confirmed it - not even Norton
Ghost 12 can by default boot from CD and create Image.*

Why do I want to create an image from a bootable CD?
Becasue I handle lots of computers and I dont want to smear the OS with
a software that is not needed. The end user will not ever use it. Only
me.

I don't like the idea to download and customize my own bootable CDs and
load 5 years old executables on it, and then later add drivers to
operate USB disks etc.

SO, I MUST NOW RECOMMEND THE SOFTWARE TRUE IMAGE, FROM ACRONIS.

This is how you work with that program, and these are the benefits I've
come to like about it.

Buy it, and install to whatever computer you want, I've read about not
so skilled persons that have problem installing it, but that can't
possibly be the softwares fault.

After installing it, look for a menu that is called "Create Resque
Media".
Insert an empty CD, check all options and complete the burn process.

Out comes a very nice bootable CD that loads quickly, and holds all the
kind of driver you need and with a very nice interface.

NOW YOU CAN DO THIS:
1. BOOT ON THE CD (OR WITH GUIDES ON THE NET, CREATE A BOOTABLE USB
MEMORY).
2. CONNECT AND DISCONNECT USB-DEVICES, THE PROGRAM FINDS THEM.
3. EJECT THE BOOT CD AND INSERT AN OTHER DVD WITH IMAGES, THE PROGRAM
IS LOADED TO THE MEMORY, SO NO NEED TO KEEP THE BOOT CD IN.
4. ACCESS A LAN, BY TYPING SOME IP-ADRESS AND ADMIN PASSWORK FOR A
SHARE.
5. CREATE AN IMAGE OF THE COMPUTER AND SAVE TO USB, ANOTHER PARTITION
OR WHATEVER DEVICE.
6. RESTORE FROM WHATEVER.
7. READ SATA DISK DRIVES (I'M NOT SURE NORTON CAN DO THAT).
8. IT WORKS FAST! A NORMAL XP-INSTALL @ ABOUT 3 GB TAKES 2-3 MINUTS TO
RESTORE FROM USB2 DRIVES.
9. WHEN DONE, JUST REBOOT THE COMPUTER.

The version I've tried is Acronis True Image Home. But there is also
Corporate editions, but with the needs you have, I don't think you need
it.

If you decide to google on Acronis True Image Home, beware that people
tends to have messed up computers that can't install advanced software.
So, don't mind those people or what they write.
Just install to a vanilla XP and create the CD.

Personally, I use this software at home and I use Windows XP SP2, that
is 2 years old, never reinstalled. Software works very very fine. I
tend to keep away from stupid software and my system is not smeared
with sharewares.

So, what I will do now is to try the old Norton Ghost 2003-executable
and see what it takes to make a bootable Nortin CD that handles usb
drives, sata disks and how fast it is.

Maybe Norton does it with charm, maybe not.

But I hope my information was good for you.
I've used Disc Cloning since about the year 2000; Norton Ghost, Drive
Image and PowerQuest's Deploy systems, as well as FreeBSD boot cds and
now lately Acronis, since version 9.

I can easily say Acronis beats them all by far.
I recon your need was to first backup the new laptop before you tried
to make new partitions, and now that you have - the restored disk is
not bootable?

Why didn't Parition Magic work?
By the way, isn't that program very very old?

What I would have done is to, if the system is not configured and
filled with personal files, restore it with the Restore-CD/DVD that
came with the new laptop.

After that, use Acronis Partition Expert to make new partitions.

If the computer and system is configured and important, I'm sure there
is a simple solution to get it to work again. Maybe Windows Vista DVD
has some repair option? Try also boot at the Norton CD and look at the
Utility tools.

Another thing to do is to hook the disk to another computer via USB.
And from that computer use some Disk Partition program.

Yet another is to download and make a Repair/Resque/Disaster boot-cd
(there are a few out there) that have multiple tools on them, one which
should help you.

By the way? Have you looked for any option called "Make disk Active"?
I know some clone program is acting smart and makes the "source" (your
laptop disk) inactive (not bootable) in some clone operations.

That is smart, according to the clone program, because the destination
disk is what should be booted from (not in your case).

After such, you have to manually switch the disk and/or partition to
active to make the bios want to boot from it. The MBR is there, the
partition is primary, but it is not active. Might be the thing
actually. Try it.

I don't like Norton that much, but maybe they have it on your cd? ;)


Good luck!
/Bepps




sarah smith;3417476 Wrote:
I did a "full disk" backup of a new Vista laptop
using Ghost 2003. Since Partition Magic would not work, I repartitioned
the hard drive using Gdisk. The full disk restore using Ghost 2003 ran
fine, but the system would not boot. Would replacing the Vista master
boot record fix it? If yes, can I just use a copy from any Vista
computer?> sarah smith;3417476 Wrote:
I did a "full disk" backup of a new Vista laptop using Ghost 2003.
Since
Partition Magic would not work, I repartitioned the hard drive using
Gdisk. The full disk restore using Ghost 2003 ran fine, but the system
would not boot. Would replacing the Vista master boot record fix it? If
yes, can I just use a copy from any Vista computer?

Thanks for your responses to this list. They were very informative.

Sarah Smith


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: ANS: "What's the deal with UAC (Windows Needs Your Permi Reply with quote

Right Click on the setup.exe file and choose the Run as admin option
available there. This will solve your problem.

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"Steffer" <Steffer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:733766B8-6EFD-4D51-B5C9-49277DFFBB54@microsoft.com...
Quote:
I am trying to install office 2007. The launcher says that it must be run
by
an administrator. When I right click on this file in the dvd drive there
is
no choice that says run as administrator. Now what??

"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

Hello,

I've noticed that a lot of the questions in these newsgroups are either
directly or indirectly related to UAC (User Account Control). In this
post,
I will go over what UAC does, how it works, the reasoning behind it, how
to
use your computer with UAC on, why you shouldn't turn UAC off, and answer
some common questions and respond to common complaints about it.


* What is UAC and what does it do?

UAC mode (also known as Admin Approval Mode) is a mode of operation that
(primarily) affects the way administrator accounts work.

When UAC is turned on (which it is by default), you must explicitly give
permission to any program that wants to use "administrator" powers. Any
program that tries to use admin powers without your permission will be
denied access.


* How does UAC work

When UAC mode is enabled, every program that you run will be given only
"standard user" access to the system, even when you are logged in as an
administrator. There are only 2 ways that a program can be "elevated" to
get
full admin access to the system:

- If it automatically asks you for permission when it starts up, and you
click Continue
- If you start the program with permission by right-clicking it, then
clicking Run As Administrator

A program either starts with STANDARD rights or, if you give permission,
ADMINISTRATOR rights, and once the program is running it cannot change
from
one to the other.

If a program that you have already started with admin powers starts
another
program, that program will automatically be given admin powers without
needing your permission. For example, if you start Windows Explorer as
administrator, and then double-click on a text file, notepad will open
and
display the contents of the text file. Since notepad was opened from the
admin explorer window, notepad WILL ALSO automatically run WITH admin
powers, and will not ask for permission.


* What's the point of UAC?

UAC is designed to put control of your computer back into your hands,
instead of at the mercy of the programs running on your computer.

When logged in as an administrator in Windows XP, any program that could
somehow get itself started could take control of the entire computer
without
you even knowing about it.

With UAC turned on, you must know about and authorize a program in order
for
it to gain admin access to the system, REGARDLESS of how the program got
there or how it is started.

This is important to all levels of users - from home users to enterprise
administrators. Being alerted when any program tries to use admin powers
and
being able to unilaterally disallow a program from having such power is a
VERY powerful ability. No longer is the security of the system tantamount
to
"crossing one's fingers and hoping for the best" - YOU now control your
system.


* How do I effectively use my computer with UAC turned on?

It's easy. Just keep in mind that programs don't have admin access to
your
computer unless you give them permission. Microsoft programs that come
with
Windows Vista that need admin access will always ask for admin
permissions
when you start them. However, most other programs will not.

This will change after Windows Vista is released - all Windows Vista-era
programs that need admin power will always ask you for it. Until then,
you
will need to run programs that need administrative powers that were not
designed for Windows Vista "as administrator".

Command-line programs do not automatically ask for permission. Not even
the
built-in ones. You will need to run the command prompt "as administrator"
in
order to run administrative command-line utilities.

Working with files and folders from Windows Explorer can be a real pain
when
you are not working with your own files. When you are needing to work
with
system files, files that you didn't create, or files from another
operating
system, run Windows Explorer "as administrator". In the same vein, ANY
program that you run that needs access to system files or files that you
didn't create will need to be ran "as administrator".

If you are going to be working with the control panel for a long time,
running control.exe "as administrator" will make things less painful -
you
will only be asked for permission once, instead of every time you try to
change a system-wide setting.

In short:

- Run command prompt as admin when you need to run admin utilities
- Run setup programs as admin
- Run programs not designed for Vista as admin if (and only if) they need
admin access
- Run Windows Explorer as admin when you need access to files that aren't
yours or system files
- Run programs that need access to files that aren't yours or system
files
as admin
- Run control.exe as admin when changing many settings in the control
panel


* UAC is annoying, I want to turn it off

Having to go through an extra step (clicking Continue) when opening
administrative programs is annoying. And it is also very frustrating to
run
a program that needs admin power but doesn't automatically ask you for it
(you have to right-click these programs and click Run As Administrator
for
them to run correctly).

But, keep in mind that these small inconveniences are insignificant when
weighed against the benefit: NO PROGRAM can get full access to your
system
without you being informed. The first time the permission dialog pops up
and
it is from some program that you know nothing about or that you do not
want
to have access to your system, you will be very glad that the Cancel
button
was available to you.


* Answers to common questions and responses to common criticism

Q: I have anti-virus, a firewall, a spyware-detector, or something
similar.
Why do I need UAC?

A: Detectors can only see known threats. And of all the known threats in
existence, they only detect the most common of those threats. With UAC
turned on, *you* control what programs have access to your computer - you
can stop ALL threats. Detectors are nice, but they're not enough. How
many
people do you know that have detectors of all kinds and yet are still
infested with programs that they don't want on their computer? Everyone
that
I have ever helped falls into this category.


Q: Does UAC replace anti-virus, a firewall, a spyware-detector, or
similar
programs?

A: No. Microsoft recommends that you use a virus scanner and/or other
types
of security software. These types of programs compliment UAC: They will
get
rid of known threats for you. UAC will allow you to stop unknown threats,
as
well as prevent any program that you do not trust from gaining access to
your computer.


Q: I am a system administrator - I have no use for UAC.

A: Really? You don't NEED to know when a program on your computer runs
with
admin powers? You are a system administrator and you really could care
less
when a program runs that has full control of your system, and possibly
your
entire domain? You're joking, right?


Q: UAC keeps me from accessing files and folders

A: No, it doesn't - UAC protects you from programs that would try to
delete
or modify system files and folders without your knowledge. If you want a
program to have full access to the files on your computer, you will need
to
run it as admin. Or as an alternative, if possible, put the files it
needs
access to in a place that all programs have access to - such as your
documents folder, or any folder under your user folder.


Q: UAC stops programs from working correctly

A: If a program needs admin power and it doesn't ask you for permission
when
it starts, you have to give it admin powers by right-clicking it and
clicking Run As Administrator. Programs should work like they did in XP
when
you use Run As Administrator. If they don't, then this is a bug.


Q: UAC keeps me from doing things that I could do in XP

A: This is not the case. Just remember that programs that do not ask for
permission when they start do not get admin access to your computer. If
you
are using a tool that needs admin access, right-click it and click Run As
Administrator. It should work exactly as it did in XP. If it does not,
then
this is a bug.


Q: UAC is Microsoft's way of controlling my computer and preventing me
from
using it!

A: This is 100% UNTRUE. UAC puts control of your computer IN YOUR HANDS
by
allowing you to prevent unwanted programs from accessing your computer.
*Everything* that you can do with UAC turned off, you can do with it
turned
on. If this is not the case, then that is a bug.


Q: I don't need Windows to hold my freaking hand! I *know* what I've got
on
my computer, and I *know* when programs run! I am logged on as an
ADMINISTRATOR for a dang reason!

A: I accept the way that you think, and can see the logic, but I don't
agree
with this idea. UAC is putting POWER in your hands by letting you CONTROL
what runs on your system. But you want to give up this control and allow
all
programs to run willy-nilly. Look, if you want to do this go right ahead,
you can turn UAC off and things will return to how they worked in XP.
But,
don't be surprised when either 1) You run something by mistake that
messes
up your computer and/or domain, or 2) A program somehow gets on your
computer that you know nothing about that takes over your computer and/or
domain, and UAC would have allowed you to have stopped it.


- JB

Vista Support FAQ
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: Sharing xp folders on XP using VISTA Reply with quote

Yes they are still disabled....

I found this on the Event logs on the XP Computer. Could this be causing
some of our problems?

The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
BENGUZMAN-VISTA that believes that it is the master browser for the domain
on transport NetBT_Tcpip_{26950295-025. The master browser is stopping or an
election is being forced.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


MRxSmb
event id 8003

Dale


"Sachin" <pmpmailbox-news@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4796B4E3.30805@yahoo.com...
Quote:
I think it would be unlikely that XP is too slow to see the tree, also if
this was the cause, then it would not have been able to see the files or
copy it.

Just to verify, you still have the firewall and anti-virus disabled right?

Sachin

Bikini Browser wrote:
FYI:

I did your steps but I was not successful. However I also tryed this
and had some amount of success...

I created a TEST folder on the XP and then I shared it and gave it all
permissions. Then I created a text file in that folder. Then I went to
the vista computer and I was actually able to open the file. Thats the
first time I could do that.

Then I copied two smalll files from Vista to the new Test folder on XP
and that worked too.

But when I try to open those files, it times out.

It seems to act like there are too many files on my production shared
folder and perhaps the XP is so slow it times out on the Vista before it
finishes seeing the folder tree...?? Can it be something like that?

BB
sganpat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1e10842e-eb90-4fe8-9dd2-3536fec5a55d@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
Ok. Then do the registry edit for the vista client and the console
edit for XP.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\LSA\

Change the key LmCompatibilityLevel from "3" to "1".

Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869 for details.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: online problems: lag on online games and very slow downl Reply with quote

No, Network Discovery is not on. Why? Do you believe this would cause a
problem.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Cannot install software on Vista - random failures? Reply with quote

Sorry don;t know where it is documented, all I can tell you is that the guy
in the PC place knew about it as soon as he saw it? he said it was a known
issue, maybe only to guys to muck around building PC's all the time.

But I was happy with the end result!

K

"Joe cann" wrote:

Quote:
This is NOT a "known issue" where is this documented ????




"Kenny" <Kenny@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I did manage to solve it after many days of mucking around with multiple
installs on various configurations. The solution was very very simple
and
should not exist - I very frustrated when I discovered the cause of the
problems:



The problem was caused by - my pc having more than 2GB RAM installed!! I
had upgraded the PC myself by simply buying 2 sticks of memeory and adding
them to the motherboard myself. Little did I know this would have caused
me
such a headache!

The solution - remove 2 of the memory sticks so that I reduced my
installed
memory from 4GB to 2GB. I then reinstalled Vista and everything worked
perfectly?

How did I find out - In despair I took my PC back to the shop I had bought
it from, the techie instantly spotted I had 4GB of RAM installed and told
me
that this was a known issue with MS Vista. I needed to start from
scratch
and install Vista with only 2GB in the mother board, then let Vista patch
itself up - one of those patches fixes this issue.

I did this and everything worked as expected, zero issues!!!!!

Once I had patched up (plus I installed most of my software/games with 2GB
in place) I then added my remaining 2GB to total 4GB and it still worked
great (though Vista only recognises 3.5GB for some reason?).


I have not experienced any issues since.


Ken


"Rick_Deckard" wrote:

Hey Kenny,

Sorry I can't help, but just thought I'd contribute so that maybe this
problem would come to Microsoft's attention. I also got the CRC error
while
installing Oblivion, and I got the same crap when trying to install
Battlefield 2 and Dark Messiah - Might and Magic, and there would be
others I
bet!

This isn't an isolated incident and it shouldn't bloody happen. I've
tried
going back to XP, but it's very hard on a toshiba laptop pre-loaded with
Vista.

Fix it Microsoft!

"Kenny" wrote:

I have recently installed 3 new 500Gb Seagate Barracuda ES 7200RPM
SATA-II
hard disk and configured them in a raid 5 array (using the Intel ICH8R
controller).

Previously I was not using RAID, but 2 discs configured by Aus PC when
I
bought
the computer and you guys built it for me - no issues and very happy :)

Now I have rebuilt machine successfully installed Vista, yet I am
experiencing
issues when I attempt to install anything else of a significant size
(i.e.
any game (i.e. Oblivion, WOW, etc) or MS Office) - both from DVD or
direct
from any of the discs on the machine.

I have updated ALL drivers related to the Intel RAID controller,
chipset &
Gigabit LAN connection which has been an issue in the past as detailed
in
many online forums.

The errors look like it is a bad/damaged CD or hard drive - the errors
are
not occuring at the same point in any instalation?

I experience errors if I attempt to install from DVD to C (75GB fast
drive),
to D (320GB standalone drive) or to the RAID array (3 x 500GB drives).

I have then downloaded or copied installation files to the harddrive
and
attempted installation again with identical results. I have attempted
to
install from C to C, D to C, RAID to C, C to D, D to D, etc.

So all the above indicates to me it is not the DVD drive nor any
individual
disc that has problems - the issue must lie with the RAID setup I have
put in
place?

I have also reinstalled windows 6 times now in an effort to ensure I
rule
out me deploying drivers in the incorrect order, the process I followed
in my
last attempt was:
1) Boot from windows disc (Intel RAID switched on in BIOS version F11
which
is

the latest for the motherboard)
2) Format C
3) Load driver for Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R SATA RAID Controller Driver
Version:

7.6.0.1011
4) Install Vista
5) log into Vista (not connect ed to Internet yet)
6) install latest Intel(R) Chipset Device Software Version: 8.3.1.1009
Target

Chipset#: X38 & 3200/3210 Chipset (its what Intel provides for the 965
express

chipset through Intel.com when you select Vista & also what Gigabyte
downloads

form thier website for the version 1 motherboard)
7) restart windows
Cool Install the latest driver for Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller
v9.12.4.3
9) install latest version of Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager version
7.6.0.1011
10) restart windows

I can browse my drives fine, RAID looks good and can copy files between
all

discs and from DVD to discs OK (note: do sometimes randomly get an
error
saying

that the system failed to copy some file due to the system running out
of
memory

- only happens sometimes when I am copying BIG chunks say 50GB+)



I have also tried unplugging the drives C & D from the Intel controlled
sata

ports and plugged them into the Gigabyte controlled ports. I have
also

ensured that the 3 drives in the RAID array use the last few ports for
Intel

controller i.e. 4, 5 & 6 as there was a suggestion on a forum from
Intel to
try

this.

None of these have had any effect and I am still experiencing these
wierd

issues??



Please help

Ken Taggart



Example errors (1 successful install):

The file "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Data\misc.MPQ" could not
be
closed,

because an error 0 occurred. If this problem persists, please contact
Blizzard

Technical Support.

An error was detected while verifying the contents of the file
"C:\Program

Files\World of Warcraft\Data\terrain.MPQ". There may be a problem with
your

system, or with the drive at C:\. You can attempt to install again. If
this

problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support.

An error was detected while verifying the contents of the file
"C:\Program

Files\World of Warcraft\Data\model.MPQ". There may be a problem with
your

system, or with the drive at C:\. You can attempt to install again. If
this

problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support.

CRC error: The file C:\Program Files\Bethesda
Softwarks\Oblivion\Data\Oblivion -

Meshes.bsa doesn't match the file in the setup's .cab file. The
medium from

which you are running the setup may be corrupted; contact your software
vendor.

Successfully installed AutoCAD 2008 which included VBA Runtime, DirectX
9.0

runtime, MSXML 6, Flash, MDAC 2.7 & AutoCAD 2008

Office fails saying it cannot find Enterprise.WW\EnterWW.cab yet I am
able to

find it and access the directory so it is there - I used these files to
install

Office before I attempted the RAID array and it installed fine


System Information from Intel Matrix Storage software

Kit Installed: 7.6.0.1011
Kit Install History: 7.6.0.1011
Shell Version: 7.6.0.1011

OS Name: Microsoft® Windows VistaT Home Premium
OS Version: 6.0.6000 Build 6000
System Name: HOME-PC
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: 965P-DQ6
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
BIOS Version/Date: Award Software International, Inc. F9, 01/11/2007

Language: ENU



Intel(R) RAID Technology

Intel RAID Controller: Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R SATA RAID Controller
Number of Serial ATA ports: 6

RAID Option ROM Version: 6.0.0.1022
Driver Version: 7.6.0.1011
RAID Plug-In Version: 7.6.0.1011
Language Resource Version of the RAID Plug-In: 7.6.0.1011
Create Volume Wizard Version: 7.6.0.1011
Language Resource Version of the Create Volume Wizard: 7.6.0.1011
Create Volume from Existing Hard Drive Wizard Version: 7.6.0.1011
Language Resource Version of the Create Volume from Existing Hard Drive
Wizard:

7.6.0.1011
Modify Volume Wizard Version: 7.6.0.1011
Language Resource Version of the Modify Volume Wizard: 7.6.0.1011
Delete Volume Wizard Version: 7.6.0.1011
Language Resource Version of the Delete Volume Wizard: 7.6.0.1011
ISDI Library Version: 7.6.0.1011
Event Monitor User Notification Tool Version: 7.6.0.1011
Language Resource Version of the Event Monitor User Notification Tool:

7.6.0.1011
Event Monitor Version: 7.6.0.1011

Array_0000
Status: No active migration(s)
Hard Drive Write Cache Enabled: Yes
Size: 1397.2 GB
Free Space: 0 GB
Number of Hard Drives: 3
Hard Drive Member 1: ST3500630NS
Hard Drive Member 2: ST3500630NS
Hard Drive Member 3: ST3500630NS
Number of Volumes: 1
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