Hello Meinolf,

I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I
do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP
address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client.

I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be
significant:
1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP
Server
2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see
them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name.



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Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

The IP is fresh. In fact, I changed out my test workstation and ran through
the whole IP config routines just to make sure there was nothing wrong with
the box I was using for the test. The new one can still not get on the
internet. The workstaion I'm on is using the router as DHCP server. If I
disable the DCHP in the router, nothing gets on.

Please clarify the settings I should use for my nic on the server.
Currently showing for IP : 192.168.1.2 ; 255.255.255.0; 192.168.1.1 For
DNS: 192.168.1.2 all others are blank. On the workstaion, it's set for
automatic all the way.


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Hello RR2, See here for the DHCP icons and description: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/f2013b82-248c-4ea4-a0e5-6e72b219163d1033.mspx?mfr=true If the workstation ip is expired, the lease time is exceeded, delete the ip on the DHCP server "address leases" and run ipconfig /renew on the workstation. The forwarders ip is only used form the DNS server, all domain members will ask the domain DNS server for the www.whatever.com address, if the server doesn't know it, it will automatically forward ther request to the ip addresses under the forwarders tab. So you will not see the addresses anywhere else. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client. I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be significant: 1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP Server 2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37ae8cab20cdaf3c130@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microsoft.c om .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Here's another thought.

Is there an issue with the default gateway being a lower IP number than the
DNS. I wouldn't think so, but then I've been wrong once or twice before in
my life.


"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2, See here for the DHCP icons and description: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/f2013b82-248c-4ea4-a0e5-6e72b219163d1033.mspx?mfr=true If the workstation ip is expired, the lease time is exceeded, delete the ip on the DHCP server "address leases" and run ipconfig /renew on the workstation. The forwarders ip is only used form the DNS server, all domain members will ask the domain DNS server for the www.whatever.com address, if the server doesn't know it, it will automatically forward ther request to the ip addresses under the forwarders tab. So you will not see the addresses anywhere else. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client. I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be significant: 1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP Server 2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37ae8cab20cdaf3c130@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microsoft.c om .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

I don't have much option on running 2 DHCP. If I rely on just the server, I
can't get on the internet at all so I can't follow this group for your
replies. I periodically disable the router DHCP just to test the
workstation, then turn it back on.


Under "quarterback" (the server's name) are two forward lookup zones:
_msdc.royalnet
and
royalnet
Under royalnet are the workstation that I'm on, our SQL server, and two
other workstations which are presently not running. Other than this
workstation (Vista), the other three listed are all running Win2K O/S.

I've noticed a listing in the event viewer that hasn't been there in the
past:

ERROR DHCP Server Event ID 1070
"Iashelpr initialization failed 1060, so DHCP server cannot talk to NPS
server. It could be that IAS service is not started"

I couldn't find any service listed that was even close to "IAS"

Regards,

Ron



"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2, Do not run 2 DHCP servers together, that will create conflicts for the client. Under DNS management console is the server listed under Forward lookup zone, if yes with how many entries and which ones? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The IP is fresh. In fact, I changed out my test workstation and ran through the whole IP config routines just to make sure there was nothing wrong with the box I was using for the test. The new one can still not get on the internet. The workstaion I'm on is using the router as DHCP server. If I disable the DCHP in the router, nothing gets on. Please clarify the settings I should use for my nic on the server. Currently showing for IP : 192.168.1.2 ; 255.255.255.0; 192.168.1.1 For DNS: 192.168.1.2 all others are blank. On the workstaion, it's set for automatic all the way. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38708cab31d286cd2e0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here for the DHCP icons and description: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/f2013b82-248c- 4ea4-a0e5-6e72b219163d1033.mspx?mfr=true If the workstation ip is expired, the lease time is exceeded, delete the ip on the DHCP server "address leases" and run ipconfig /renew on the workstation. The forwarders ip is only used form the DNS server, all domain members will ask the domain DNS server for the www.whatever.com address, if the server doesn't know it, it will automatically forward ther request to the ip addresses under the forwarders tab. So you will not see the addresses anywhere else. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client. I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be significant: 1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP Server 2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37ae8cab20cdaf3c130@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft.c om .. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microsoft .c om .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

I forgot to mention that although I have two DHCPs running, they have
different scopes to, hopefully, aviod conflicts.



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Hello RR2, Do not run 2 DHCP servers together, that will create conflicts for the client. Under DNS management console is the server listed under Forward lookup zone, if yes with how many entries and which ones? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The IP is fresh. In fact, I changed out my test workstation and ran through the whole IP config routines just to make sure there was nothing wrong with the box I was using for the test. The new one can still not get on the internet. The workstaion I'm on is using the router as DHCP server. If I disable the DCHP in the router, nothing gets on. Please clarify the settings I should use for my nic on the server. Currently showing for IP : 192.168.1.2 ; 255.255.255.0; 192.168.1.1 For DNS: 192.168.1.2 all others are blank. On the workstaion, it's set for automatic all the way. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38708cab31d286cd2e0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here for the DHCP icons and description: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/f2013b82-248c- 4ea4-a0e5-6e72b219163d1033.mspx?mfr=true If the workstation ip is expired, the lease time is exceeded, delete the ip on the DHCP server "address leases" and run ipconfig /renew on the workstation. The forwarders ip is only used form the DNS server, all domain members will ask the domain DNS server for the www.whatever.com address, if the server doesn't know it, it will automatically forward ther request to the ip addresses under the forwarders tab. So you will not see the addresses anywhere else. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client. I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be significant: 1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP Server 2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37ae8cab20cdaf3c130@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft.c om .. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microsoft .c om .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

router DHCP scope 192.168.1.100 - 150

Server DHCP scope 192.168.1.227 - 232



"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello RR2,

See here for the DHCP icons and description:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/f2013b82-248c-4ea4-a0e5-6e72b219163d1033.mspx?mfr=true

If the workstation ip is expired, the lease time is exceeded, delete the
ip on the DHCP server "address leases" and run ipconfig /renew on the workstation.

The forwarders ip is only used form the DNS server, all domain members will
ask the domain DNS server for the www.whatever.com address, if the server
doesn't know it, it will automatically forward ther request to the ip addresses
under the forwarders tab. So you will not see the addresses anywhere else.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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Hello Meinolf, I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client. I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be significant: 1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP Server 2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37ae8cab20cdaf3c130@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microsoft.c om .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS
for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a
problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the
DHCP server.

I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with
the hardware.



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Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

I've just uninstalled NPS. Is this something I really need. If so, I'll
reinstall.



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Hello RR2, See here about NPS: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/d347e8aa-3d9b-43a5-8a4a-0faf4c5baf141033.mspx?mfr=true What happens if disconnect just for a short time the router from the switch, where also server and client is connected. Will the client get an ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the DHCP server. I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with the hardware. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38938cab32a25d71f0c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello RR2,

Do not run 2 DHCP servers together, that will create conflicts for the client.
Under DNS management console is the server listed under Forward lookup zone,
if yes with how many entries and which ones?

Best regards

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The IP is fresh. In fact, I changed out my test workstation and ran through the whole IP config routines just to make sure there was nothing wrong with the box I was using for the test. The new one can still not get on the internet. The workstaion I'm on is using the router as DHCP server. If I disable the DCHP in the router, nothing gets on. Please clarify the settings I should use for my nic on the server. Currently showing for IP : 192.168.1.2 ; 255.255.255.0; 192.168.1.1 For DNS: 192.168.1.2 all others are blank. On the workstaion, it's set for automatic all the way. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38708cab31d286cd2e0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here for the DHCP icons and description: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/f2013b82-248c- 4ea4-a0e5-6e72b219163d1033.mspx?mfr=true If the workstation ip is expired, the lease time is exceeded, delete the ip on the DHCP server "address leases" and run ipconfig /renew on the workstation. The forwarders ip is only used form the DNS server, all domain members will ask the domain DNS server for the www.whatever.com address, if the server doesn't know it, it will automatically forward ther request to the ip addresses under the forwarders tab. So you will not see the addresses anywhere else. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client. I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be significant: 1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP Server 2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37ae8cab20cdaf3c130@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft.c om .. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microsoft .c om .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello RR2,

Doesn't matter.

Best regards

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Here's another thought. Is there an issue with the default gateway being a lower IP number than the DNS. I wouldn't think so, but then I've been wrong once or twice before in my life. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38708cab31d286cd2e0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here for the DHCP icons and description: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/f2013b82-248c- 4ea4-a0e5-6e72b219163d1033.mspx?mfr=true If the workstation ip is expired, the lease time is exceeded, delete the ip on the DHCP server "address leases" and run ipconfig /renew on the workstation. The forwarders ip is only used form the DNS server, all domain members will ask the domain DNS server for the www.whatever.com address, if the server doesn't know it, it will automatically forward ther request to the ip addresses under the forwarders tab. So you will not see the addresses anywhere else. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client. I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be significant: 1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP Server 2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37ae8cab20cdaf3c130@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft.c om .. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microsoft .c om .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

OK, I reinstalled NPS and disconnected the router for a period of time. No
change, the client can still not refresh




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I've just uninstalled NPS. Is this something I really need. If so, I'll reinstall. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38a08cab332b122536c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here about NPS: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/d347e8aa-3d9b-43a5-8a4a-0faf4c5baf141033.mspx?mfr=true What happens if disconnect just for a short time the router from the switch, where also server and client is connected. Will the client get an ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the DHCP server. I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with the hardware. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38938cab32a25d71f0c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello RR2,

Check here for 1070
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/c3b17c17-4729-49f2-be46-03af0e9ee83c1033.mspx?mfr=true

Best regards

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I don't have much option on running 2 DHCP. If I rely on just the server, I can't get on the internet at all so I can't follow this group for your replies. I periodically disable the router DHCP just to test the workstation, then turn it back on. Under "quarterback" (the server's name) are two forward lookup zones: _msdc.royalnet and royalnet Under royalnet are the workstation that I'm on, our SQL server, and two other workstations which are presently not running. Other than this workstation (Vista), the other three listed are all running Win2K O/S. I've noticed a listing in the event viewer that hasn't been there in the past: ERROR DHCP Server Event ID 1070 "Iashelpr initialization failed 1060, so DHCP server cannot talk to NPS server. It could be that IAS service is not started" I couldn't find any service listed that was even close to "IAS" Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38798cab325322bf740@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Do not run 2 DHCP servers together, that will create conflicts for the client. Under DNS management console is the server listed under Forward lookup zone, if yes with how many entries and which ones? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The IP is fresh. In fact, I changed out my test workstation and ran through the whole IP config routines just to make sure there was nothing wrong with the box I was using for the test. The new one can still not get on the internet. The workstaion I'm on is using the router as DHCP server. If I disable the DCHP in the router, nothing gets on. Please clarify the settings I should use for my nic on the server. Currently showing for IP : 192.168.1.2 ; 255.255.255.0; 192.168.1.1 For DNS: 192.168.1.2 all others are blank. On the workstaion, it's set for automatic all the way. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38708cab31d286cd2e0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here for the DHCP icons and description: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/f2013b82-248 c- 4ea4-a0e5-6e72b219163d1033.mspx?mfr=true If the workstation ip is expired, the lease time is exceeded, delete the ip on the DHCP server "address leases" and run ipconfig /renew on the workstation. The forwarders ip is only used form the DNS server, all domain members will ask the domain DNS server for the www.whatever.com address, if the server doesn't know it, it will automatically forward ther request to the ip addresses under the forwarders tab. So you will not see the addresses anywhere else. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think we're gaining some ground, but still not working right yet. When I do a "ipconfig /all" on the client, it is now showing the router's IP address as it should, but I still can't get to the internet on the client. I've noticed a couple of things in the server that may or may not be significant: 1. There is a blue exclamation mark "!" showing by IPv4 under the DHCP Server 2. Although the forwarders are set as you described earlier, I don't see them listed anywhere unless I right click on the server name. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37ae8cab20cdaf3c130@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello rRR2, Yes, that 's what i look for and you have to set the option 003 for the router ip address, the Default gateway for the workstation. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I'm home now, but logged into the server. I hope this is what you were looking for by way of scope options: 006DNS Servers Standard 192.168.1.126 None 015 DNS Domain Name Standard royalnet None Regards, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37768cab1d00f9409d0@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, I am still hoping that you will post the scope options from the DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then. "without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU. NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a tech support guy as I felt it was over my head. I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients). We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different people can get access to the same things. Cheers, Ron "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37648cab1cbbac0a200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names. Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4 was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the new from the old security hashes. the exclusions have been entered for 128-132 "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a375f8cab1c883636200@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router. Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or something else? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address leases, reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere. DHCP server is authorized Scope is activated. Here are the listings you requested: Server *********** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes client ***************** Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet royalnet Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56 PM "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37538cab1c2e416b080@msnews.microsoft.com.. . Hello RR2, Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic, how to i posted before. Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, OK, here's where we stand. I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232) No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part. 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client. Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router. I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even rebooted the client. Still no internet. NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the company is still logged in. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a374a8cab1bc6be4fe60@msnews.microsoft.com .. . Hello RR2, See inline Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hi Meinolf, I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning. Please clarify the following points: remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client, or both? On all computers NIC'S in your domain. "setup a forwarder" Please explain. On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out. Where do I exclude the unused IPs? Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip address. I could probably stumble around and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking everyone out and having them tell me. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37438cab1b9870aa350@msnews.microsoft.c om .. . Hello RR2, For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is leased from the client, exclude the other ones. As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described. Please post your scope options also. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided. Server: DHCP service running and authorized. scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP) IPv6 unchecked IPv4 IPs 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 Router (IP is 192.168.1.1) DHCP disabled. Client Obtain IP address automatically Use following DNS 192.168.1.2 209.253.113.10 209.253.113.18 On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet. I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic. I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a373c8cab1b6a881ddd0@msnews.microsoft .c om .. . Hello RR2, Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37318cab1b3275e8210@msnews.microso ft .c om .. . Hello RR2, I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server not from the router, if so configured. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Frustration is growing long and the day is growing short. I'm once again
removing NPS which seems to be nothing but an added confusion factor.
I'll disable DHCP on the server so as a minimum, the company will be back
where it was at the start of business tomorrow.


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OK, I reinstalled NPS and disconnected the router for a period of time. No change, the client can still not refresh "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:uWCS0uQ5IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... I've just uninstalled NPS. Is this something I really need. If so, I'll reinstall. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38a08cab332b122536c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here about NPS: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/d347e8aa-3d9b-43a5-8a4a-0faf4c5baf141033.mspx?mfr=true What happens if disconnect just for a short time the router from the switch, where also server and client is connected. Will the client get an ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the DHCP server. I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with the hardware. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38938cab32a25d71f0c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello RR2,

So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router
also running?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello RR2,

See here about NPS:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/d347e8aa-3d9b-43a5-8a4a-0faf4c5baf141033.mspx?mfr=true

What happens if disconnect just for a short time the router from the switch,
where also server and client is connected. Will the client get an ip address?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the DHCP server. I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with the hardware. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38938cab32a25d71f0c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello Meinolf,

I think the problem is solved. I disabled SMB signing in group policies and
haven't had a problem with system lockup since then.

I'm also slowly moving clients over to the DHCP server on the server. I'm
being vary cautious about this move so I don't have to back track too far if
anything goes wrong.


"RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message
news:%23T9pVLR5IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Frustration is growing long and the day is growing short. I'm once again removing NPS which seems to be nothing but an added confusion factor. I'll disable DHCP on the server so as a minimum, the company will be back where it was at the start of business tomorrow. "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:ewt%23rAR5IHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... OK, I reinstalled NPS and disconnected the router for a period of time. No change, the client can still not refresh "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:uWCS0uQ5IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... I've just uninstalled NPS. Is this something I really need. If so, I'll reinstall. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38a08cab332b122536c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here about NPS: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/d347e8aa-3d9b-43a5-8a4a-0faf4c5baf141033.mspx?mfr=true What happens if disconnect just for a short time the router from the switch, where also server and client is connected. Will the client get an ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the DHCP server. I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with the hardware. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38938cab32a25d71f0c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hi Meinolf,

The clients are all on Win2K Pro, XP Pro, and mine is on Vista.

After sending the previous message, I had a file lockup again, so I probably
spoke prematurely and jinxed myself. Evidently, that wasn't the cure.

I'm having the same issues with DHCP that we were working with also. I have
a couple of clients migrated to the server and seem to be working OK, but
the event viewer on the server is showing Event ID 1070. Whenever I
installed NPS to clear the issue, the clients couldn't connect to the
internet. Now, we're in the middle of the workweek and I am unable to do
tests.


"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2, Nice to hear, but keep in mind disabling SMB signing is also lowering the security level of the complete domain. What OS are your clients running? Think we never talked about. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think the problem is solved. I disabled SMB signing in group policies and haven't had a problem with system lockup since then. I'm also slowly moving clients over to the DHCP server on the server. I'm being vary cautious about this move so I don't have to back track too far if anything goes wrong. "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:%23T9pVLR5IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Frustration is growing long and the day is growing short. I'm once again removing NPS which seems to be nothing but an added confusion factor. I'll disable DHCP on the server so as a minimum, the company will be back where it was at the start of business tomorrow. "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:ewt%23rAR5IHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... OK, I reinstalled NPS and disconnected the router for a period of time. No change, the client can still not refresh "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:uWCS0uQ5IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... I've just uninstalled NPS. Is this something I really need. If so, I'll reinstall. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38a08cab332b122536c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here about NPS: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/d347e8a a-3d9b-43a5-8a4a-0faf4c5baf141033.mspx?mfr=true What happens if disconnect just for a short time the router from the switch, where also server and client is connected. Will the client get an ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the DHCP server. I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with the hardware. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38938cab32a25d71f0c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello RR2,

Nice to hear, but keep in mind disabling SMB signing is also lowering the
security level of the complete domain. What OS are your clients running?
Think we never talked about.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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Quote:

Hello Meinolf, I think the problem is solved. I disabled SMB signing in group policies and haven't had a problem with system lockup since then. I'm also slowly moving clients over to the DHCP server on the server. I'm being vary cautious about this move so I don't have to back track too far if anything goes wrong. "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:%23T9pVLR5IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Frustration is growing long and the day is growing short. I'm once again removing NPS which seems to be nothing but an added confusion factor. I'll disable DHCP on the server so as a minimum, the company will be back where it was at the start of business tomorrow. "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:ewt%23rAR5IHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... OK, I reinstalled NPS and disconnected the router for a period of time. No change, the client can still not refresh "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:uWCS0uQ5IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... I've just uninstalled NPS. Is this something I really need. If so, I'll reinstall. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38a08cab332b122536c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here about NPS: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/d347e8a a-3d9b-43a5-8a4a-0faf4c5baf141033.mspx?mfr=true What happens if disconnect just for a short time the router from the switch, where also server and client is connected. Will the client get an ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the DHCP server. I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with the hardware. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38938cab32a25d71f0c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

I need a clarification on this:

DHCP > Scope > Scope Options
For "006 DNS Servers", this field auto populated with 192.168.1.126 which is
a client and who's IP is issued from the router.
My DNS server IP is actually 192.168.1.2. Should I manually change the 006
field to 192.168.1.2 ?

Thanks,

R.


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Hi Meinolf, The clients are all on Win2K Pro, XP Pro, and mine is on Vista. After sending the previous message, I had a file lockup again, so I probably spoke prematurely and jinxed myself. Evidently, that wasn't the cure. I'm having the same issues with DHCP that we were working with also. I have a couple of clients migrated to the server and seem to be working OK, but the event viewer on the server is showing Event ID 1070. Whenever I installed NPS to clear the issue, the clients couldn't connect to the internet. Now, we're in the middle of the workweek and I am unable to do tests. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a3bd48cab4e1e7ce5203@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, Nice to hear, but keep in mind disabling SMB signing is also lowering the security level of the complete domain. What OS are your clients running? Think we never talked about. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Hello Meinolf, I think the problem is solved. I disabled SMB signing in group policies and haven't had a problem with system lockup since then. I'm also slowly moving clients over to the DHCP server on the server. I'm being vary cautious about this move so I don't have to back track too far if anything goes wrong. "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:%23T9pVLR5IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Frustration is growing long and the day is growing short. I'm once again removing NPS which seems to be nothing but an added confusion factor. I'll disable DHCP on the server so as a minimum, the company will be back where it was at the start of business tomorrow. "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:ewt%23rAR5IHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... OK, I reinstalled NPS and disconnected the router for a period of time. No change, the client can still not refresh "RR2" <ronra-spamfilter-@rplighting.com> wrote in message news:uWCS0uQ5IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... I've just uninstalled NPS. Is this something I really need. If so, I'll reinstall. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38a08cab332b122536c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, See here about NPS: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/d347e8a a-3d9b-43a5-8a4a-0faf4c5baf141033.mspx?mfr=true What happens if disconnect just for a short time the router from the switch, where also server and client is connected. Will the client get an ip address? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm This is getting worse all the time. Per the other error, I've installed NPS for whatever good that does me. The exclamation mark went away indicating a problem, but now when I do ipconfig /renew, the workstation can't find the DHCP server. I think we were far far better off with NT-4. It's just not compatible with the hardware. "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a38938cab32a25d71f0c@msnews.microsoft.com... Hello RR2, So you run 2 different scopes on the server and have the DHCP on the router also running? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some problems with application hangups. The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No applications are installed on the server. Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server. Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?