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Thanks - I tried turning off as many services as possible and that didn't help (I only enabled the ones that DCPROMO complained about as I ran it). I also tried leaving the default services running (the ones that run when install windows server 2008R2) and that as enabled by default.

Ok, but just keep in mind the DHCP CLient (not the server service) is
required on all machines, or registration and name lookups will be disabled.
I've seen IT folks disable it thinking they didn't need it because the
machine has a fixed IP, but like I said, it's a misnomer. I think this
service should be called the DNS Dynamic Registration and Client Side
Resolver Service.

:-)

Ace

LOL - OK - I'll try to remember it. Frankly I'm a pretty vanilla kind of
guy. If the system works I don't change a lot of MS defaults for services.
If something doesn't work properly I might set something for delayed but
usually when I initially set up a system everything is the default and I'm
pretty sure dhcp client is on by default.

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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:Oas30WZVKHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Thanks - I tried turning off as many services as possible and that didn't help (I only enabled the ones that DCPROMO complained about as I ran it). I also tried leaving the default services running (the ones that run when install windows server 2008R2) and that as enabled by default. Ok, but just keep in mind the DHCP CLient (not the server service) is required on all machines, or registration and name lookups will be disabled. I've seen IT folks disable it thinking they didn't need it because the machine has a fixed IP, but like I said, it's a misnomer. I think this service should be called the DNS Dynamic Registration and Client Side Resolver Service. :-) Ace

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LOL - OK - I'll try to remember it. Frankly I'm a pretty vanilla kind of guy. If the system works I don't change a lot of MS defaults for services. If something doesn't work properly I might set something for delayed but usually when I initially set up a system everything is the default and I'm pretty sure dhcp client is on by default.

Cool. Now back to the issue. I'm at a loss at this point. Have you tried
anything new?

Ace

What does debug/dcpromo.log and debug/Netlogon.log have in it?

When you disabled IPv6 did you disable toreno?
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/19/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx


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2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
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Hello, I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.

I'm at a loss - short of hiring a Shaman I'm about ready to admit defeat.
I'm pretty sure now it has to do with the processor or the motherboard
perhaps a built in USB port or some such thing - I'll just have to run
virtual 2008R2 on top of 2008R2 if I want to run dcpromo.

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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:09E35012-76F9-4B52-B936-A89603A40213@microsoft.com... LOL - OK - I'll try to remember it. Frankly I'm a pretty vanilla kind of guy. If the system works I don't change a lot of MS defaults for services. If something doesn't work properly I might set something for delayed but usually when I initially set up a system everything is the default and I'm pretty sure dhcp client is on by default. Cool. Now back to the issue. I'm at a loss at this point. Have you tried anything new? Ace

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I'm at a loss - short of hiring a Shaman I'm about ready to admit defeat. I'm pretty sure now it has to do with the processor or the motherboard perhaps a built in USB port or some such thing - I'll just have to run virtual 2008R2 on top of 2008R2 if I want to run dcpromo.

I had to look up Shaman - in short, a healer! Witch doctor? Reminds me of
Gilligan's Island. :-)

I would just do that, run it in a VM for now. You can use the host as a
file/print or whatever else server, but as for a DC, since it's just
authenticating, etc, it wouldn't hurt to keep it in a VM.

Curious if you had another new server laying around (like everyone has one
in their closet!) to try it on and see if it works.

Ace

He's typically the medicine man for American Indians. Sometimes said to
have spiritual powers. - Sorry for the odd reference. Denver Airport
hired one to fix their screwed up baggage handling system. They were
pretty sure it was caused by bad juju

If I get overly ambitious I'll set it up on my main PC this weekend - I'm
willing to be it will work but I could be wrong.

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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:F0C5E621-12D9-4FFC-8089-AB8088E80215@microsoft.com... I'm at a loss - short of hiring a Shaman I'm about ready to admit defeat. I'm pretty sure now it has to do with the processor or the motherboard perhaps a built in USB port or some such thing - I'll just have to run virtual 2008R2 on top of 2008R2 if I want to run dcpromo. I had to look up Shaman - in short, a healer! Witch doctor? Reminds me of Gilligan's Island. :-) I would just do that, run it in a VM for now. You can use the host as a file/print or whatever else server, but as for a DC, since it's just authenticating, etc, it wouldn't hurt to keep it in a VM. Curious if you had another new server laying around (like everyone has one in their closet!) to try it on and see if it works. Ace

"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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He's typically the medicine man for American Indians. Sometimes said to have spiritual powers. - Sorry for the odd reference. Denver Airport hired one to fix their screwed up baggage handling system. They were pretty sure it was caused by bad juju If I get overly ambitious I'll set it up on my main PC this weekend - I'm willing to be it will work but I could be wrong.

No problem about the reference. I just didn't know what it meant and had to
look it up. My reference to Gilligan's Island was in jest and hopefully not
taken any other way.

Then again, I can save you time and money and send you some magical pixie
dust to sprinkle over it.

And I'm willing to bet your PC will work. :-

Ace

Nothing wrong with referencing Giligan's Island - my friends and I still
quote Thurston - "heavens, he must be a Yale man!"

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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:OJ7K0XnVKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... He's typically the medicine man for American Indians. Sometimes said to have spiritual powers. - Sorry for the odd reference. Denver Airport hired one to fix their screwed up baggage handling system. They were pretty sure it was caused by bad juju If I get overly ambitious I'll set it up on my main PC this weekend - I'm willing to be it will work but I could be wrong. No problem about the reference. I just didn't know what it meant and had to look it up. My reference to Gilligan's Island was in jest and hopefully not taken any other way. Then again, I can save you time and money and send you some magical pixie dust to sprinkle over it. And I'm willing to bet your PC will work. :- Ace

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Nothing wrong with referencing Giligan's Island - my friends and I still quote Thurston - "heavens, he must be a Yale man!"

I remember that! LOL. Good ole' Thurston the Harvard man. I used to
watch the reruns when I was a kid. I liked the one with the radioactive
fruit and vegetable crate showed up. Gilligan ate the spinach and was able
to pick up tree trunks! :-)

Anyway, back to the issue. So what are your plans? To install it into a
virtual machine?

Ace

My plans are to hook up with MaryAnne. After that, give the Skipper a box
of nails made of plastique and watch the fun.

Seriously though, I'm just going to accept (for now) that there is a
hardware compatibility issue with my system and 2008 R2. I would imagine
any client I set this up for will have a poweredge made in the last 3 years
and I'm sure they'll make whatever bios updates necessary to resolve the
issue or MS will have a patch. I can't imagine too many people are using
desktops as servers so the fault lies with myself, not in my stars.

I appreciate the tips and I think we've exhausted all possible solutions.
Since it was a test platform for me to review R2 and Exchange 2010 I've seen
what I need to. I am seeing some glitches between the two so I don't think
they are quite ready for prime time but I think it will be ready in a couple
of months. Unfortunately glitches aside, I'll admit out of all the
features I was hoping for in Exchange 2010 - mailbox sizes in the EMC gui
was at the top of the list - very saddened they didn't put it back in. And
I doubt it will be back even when SP2 comes out for 2010. There are a few
new features in 2010 I like but for some reason so many things weren't
thought out it really boggles the brain. Like calendar and contacts
sharing in the EMC- they only put in half the equation - whose calendars are
shared - but they forgot to set viewable by whom as modifiable - it is all
or nothing - tragic. My needs for the OS are fewer - speed, security and
speed - did I mention speed? (sure I want DHCP, ADS, DNS, GP, etc - I'm
pretty happy with R2 so not much to say). Exchange 2010 however they
create archives - great idea! But they keep the archives in the same
database as the user database - WTF!?! They add in message threading in
the OWA- GREAT! However they take away the option to view messages at the
bottom which I would say more that 80% of the clients I support prefer.

Why must MS always take away a feature for every couple of features they
add? They only alienate their own clients. It's like the ribbon in
Office 2007 - I have no problem with using the ribbon but nearly half my
clients don't want Office 2007 because they don't want to learn how to find
what they've been using for 15 years all over again. MS could have just
offered an option on install - classic or ribbon. MS sales are down not
because of the economy but because MS won't listen. The adds for Windows 7
make it sound like MS listens - I'd love to see MS execs post here/technet
saying we'd like the MVPs to send us their top 15 issues with the product
you field questions for. No confinement whatsoever - free form your answer
and we'll actually have our engineers read the responses. I beta tested
Vista for MS - not one of the survey's I filled out ever let me freeform an
answer so I couldn't just say - it is SLOW, it eats up video memory, network
performance is wretched... Instead I filled out useful questions like from
1 to 5 - 1 being very good to 5 being perfect - how would you rate the start
menu. It was like they were asking survey questions that could only tell
them they were doing a great job.

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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:B1C9DAEB-B476-4B5E-9A5A-185F517D882C@microsoft.com... Nothing wrong with referencing Giligan's Island - my friends and I still quote Thurston - "heavens, he must be a Yale man!" I remember that! LOL. Good ole' Thurston the Harvard man. I used to watch the reruns when I was a kid. I liked the one with the radioactive fruit and vegetable crate showed up. Gilligan ate the spinach and was able to pick up tree trunks! :-) Anyway, back to the issue. So what are your plans? To install it into a virtual machine? Ace

Once I actually run DCPROMO, I can never get my system to boot, even with
save/recovery/disable sigs.

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What does debug/dcpromo.log and debug/Netlogon.log have in it? When you disabled IPv6 did you disable toreno? http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/19/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx -- Paul Bergson MVP - Directory Services MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 http://www.pbbergs.com Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com... Hello, I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.

Are you able to go back and look at the logs I pointed to earlier or the
Event logs? This should give you some type of clue.

--
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MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009

http://www.pbbergs.com

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Once I actually run DCPROMO, I can never get my system to boot, even with save/recovery/disable sigs. "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message news:ejxJSkjVKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... What does debug/dcpromo.log and debug/Netlogon.log have in it? When you disabled IPv6 did you disable toreno? http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/19/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx -- Paul Bergson MVP - Directory Services MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 http://www.pbbergs.com Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com... Hello, I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.

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My plans are to hook up with MaryAnne. After that, give the Skipper a box of nails made of plastique and watch the fun.

That was a good episode@ LOL!

Quote:

Seriously though, I'm just going to accept (for now) that there is a hardware compatibility issue with my system and 2008 R2. I would imagine any client I set this up for will have a poweredge made in the last 3 years and I'm sure they'll make whatever bios updates necessary to resolve the issue or MS will have a patch. I can't imagine too many people are using desktops as servers so the fault lies with myself, not in my stars.

All of my customers are using Dell PEs, of course with my recommendations,
except for one, which already had two HPs in place. However, I don't have an
additional one at this time to test a 2008 R2 installation on one of them.

Quote:

I appreciate the tips and I think we've exhausted all possible solutions. Since it was a test platform for me to review R2 and Exchange 2010 I've seen what I need to. I am seeing some glitches between the two so I don't think they are quite ready for prime time but I think it will be ready in a couple of months.

I think Exchange 2010 is ready, however I have not tested 2008 R2 yet.

Quote:

Unfortunately glitches aside, I'll admit out of all the features I was hoping for in Exchange 2010 - mailbox sizes in the EMC gui was at the top of the list - very saddened they didn't put it back in. And I doubt it will be back even when SP2 comes out for 2010.

Power Shell!! :-)

Quote:

There are a few new features in 2010 I like but for some reason so many things weren't thought out it really boggles the brain. Like calendar and contacts sharing in the EMC- they only put in half the equation - whose calendars are shared - but they forgot to set viewable by whom as modifiable - it is all or nothing - tragic.

Power Shell, again! You can creat scripts to pull that data, but I know you
already know that. :-)

Quote:

My needs for the OS are fewer - speed, security and speed - did I mention speed? (sure I want DHCP, ADS, DNS, GP, etc - I'm pretty happy with R2 so not much to say). Exchange 2010 however they create archives - great idea! But they keep the archives in the same database as the user database - WTF!?! They add in message threading in the OWA- GREAT! However they take away the option to view messages at the bottom which I would say more that 80% of the clients I support prefer.

I can understand some of the give and take (compromises) that we will all be
going through.

Have you thought about posting some of these gripes/observations to the
Exchange newsgroups?

Quote:

Why must MS always take away a feature for every couple of features they add? They only alienate their own clients. It's like the ribbon in Office 2007 - I have no problem with using the ribbon but nearly half my clients don't want Office 2007 because they don't want to learn how to find what they've been using for 15 years all over again. MS could have just offered an option on install - classic or ribbon. MS sales are down not because of the economy but because MS won't listen. The adds for Windows 7 make it sound like MS listens - I'd love to see MS execs post here/technet saying we'd like the MVPs to send us their top 15 issues with the product you field questions for. No confinement whatsoever - free form your answer and we'll actually have our engineers read the responses. I beta tested Vista for MS - not one of the survey's I filled out ever let me freeform an answer so I couldn't just say - it is SLOW, it eats up video memory, network performance is wretched... Instead I filled out useful questions like from 1 to 5 - 1 being very good to 5 being perfect - how would you rate the start menu. It was like they were asking survey questions that could only tell them they were doing a great job.

I like Office 2007, however I'm not thrilled about Vista. I mean I teach the
Vista courses, etc, but that's my own personal opinion. I do however, like
Windows 7. I just setup a 7 box for a customer and using XP Mode. Pretty
cool.

Ace

Yep - posted these request when I beta tested Exchange 2007. And put the
new requests such as who gets access to whose calendars for 2010 in the
technet forums.

I have to be honest - I HATE powershell. I have a very bad memory so
clicking through a gui to see mailbox sizes in 2003 was wonderful. Now I
have to put the command for it in my knowledgebase and look it up every time
I want to look - which I don't do as often since I have to look up the
command just to do it I see no reason not to leave that function in the
GUI. I've seen a ton of posts on the same thing - unfortunately getting
MS's attention is difficult. I often can't figure out the object of the
command I'm supposed to enter - one of the reasons I like GUI so much - I
don't have to figure out what the identity or whatever the command needs is.
I suppose if all I did was administer servers I'd probably get more
comfortable with it but I have a few thousand workstations, several hundred
phones, billing, meetings etc. to deal with. If I had a better memory that
would help me a lot too I guess MS doesn't really think about it from
the point of view of multiple hat administrators but it seems like we are
the ones who post the most about how much we hate powershell. I realize
the new DOS commands are all powerful new features according to MS but I
consider them just MS's way of saying - hey it was too much work and we
didn't get a chance to finish the GUI so you can just learn how to do what
you used to be able to do with a mouse click by typing tons of code - enjoy!

I do appreciate the time you took trying to help me with this issue.

Likewise on the PE - they are pretty much the only server I recommend. A
university I sometimes work for often buys the servers before I recommend
them so I have to deal with HPs as well but I prefer Dell's. Probably
partially because I hated Compaq servers and associate the two :)

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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:19F504AF-E361-47BC-B444-18A95D21D1C8@microsoft.com... My plans are to hook up with MaryAnne. After that, give the Skipper a box of nails made of plastique and watch the fun. That was a good episode@ LOL! Seriously though, I'm just going to accept (for now) that there is a hardware compatibility issue with my system and 2008 R2. I would imagine any client I set this up for will have a poweredge made in the last 3 years and I'm sure they'll make whatever bios updates necessary to resolve the issue or MS will have a patch. I can't imagine too many people are using desktops as servers so the fault lies with myself, not in my stars. All of my customers are using Dell PEs, of course with my recommendations, except for one, which already had two HPs in place. However, I don't have an additional one at this time to test a 2008 R2 installation on one of them. I appreciate the tips and I think we've exhausted all possible solutions. Since it was a test platform for me to review R2 and Exchange 2010 I've seen what I need to. I am seeing some glitches between the two so I don't think they are quite ready for prime time but I think it will be ready in a couple of months. I think Exchange 2010 is ready, however I have not tested 2008 R2 yet. Unfortunately glitches aside, I'll admit out of all the features I was hoping for in Exchange 2010 - mailbox sizes in the EMC gui was at the top of the list - very saddened they didn't put it back in. And I doubt it will be back even when SP2 comes out for 2010. Power Shell!! :-) There are a few new features in 2010 I like but for some reason so many things weren't thought out it really boggles the brain. Like calendar and contacts sharing in the EMC- they only put in half the equation - whose calendars are shared - but they forgot to set viewable by whom as modifiable - it is all or nothing - tragic. Power Shell, again! You can creat scripts to pull that data, but I know you already know that. :-) My needs for the OS are fewer - speed, security and speed - did I mention speed? (sure I want DHCP, ADS, DNS, GP, etc - I'm pretty happy with R2 so not much to say). Exchange 2010 however they create archives - great idea! But they keep the archives in the same database as the user database - WTF!?! They add in message threading in the OWA- GREAT! However they take away the option to view messages at the bottom which I would say more that 80% of the clients I support prefer. I can understand some of the give and take (compromises) that we will all be going through. Have you thought about posting some of these gripes/observations to the Exchange newsgroups? Why must MS always take away a feature for every couple of features they add? They only alienate their own clients. It's like the ribbon in Office 2007 - I have no problem with using the ribbon but nearly half my clients don't want Office 2007 because they don't want to learn how to find what they've been using for 15 years all over again. MS could have just offered an option on install - classic or ribbon. MS sales are down not because of the economy but because MS won't listen. The adds for Windows 7 make it sound like MS listens - I'd love to see MS execs post here/technet saying we'd like the MVPs to send us their top 15 issues with the product you field questions for. No confinement whatsoever - free form your answer and we'll actually have our engineers read the responses. I beta tested Vista for MS - not one of the survey's I filled out ever let me freeform an answer so I couldn't just say - it is SLOW, it eats up video memory, network performance is wretched... Instead I filled out useful questions like from 1 to 5 - 1 being very good to 5 being perfect - how would you rate the start menu. It was like they were asking survey questions that could only tell them they were doing a great job. I like Office 2007, however I'm not thrilled about Vista. I mean I teach the Vista courses, etc, but that's my own personal opinion. I do however, like Windows 7. I just setup a 7 box for a customer and using XP Mode. Pretty cool. Ace

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Yep - posted these request when I beta tested Exchange 2007. And put the new requests such as who gets access to whose calendars for 2010 in the technet forums. I have to be honest - I HATE powershell. I have a very bad memory so clicking through a gui to see mailbox sizes in 2003 was wonderful. Now I have to put the command for it in my knowledgebase and look it up every time I want to look - which I don't do as often since I have to look up the command just to do it I see no reason not to leave that function in the GUI. I've seen a ton of posts on the same thing - unfortunately getting MS's attention is difficult. I often can't figure out the object of the command I'm supposed to enter - one of the reasons I like GUI so much - I don't have to figure out what the identity or whatever the command needs is. I suppose if all I did was administer servers I'd probably get more comfortable with it but I have a few thousand workstations, several hundred phones, billing, meetings etc. to deal with. If I had a better memory that would help me a lot too I guess MS doesn't really think about it from the point of view of multiple hat administrators but it seems like we are the ones who post the most about how much we hate powershell. I realize the new DOS commands are all powerful new features according to MS but I consider them just MS's way of saying - hey it was too much work and we didn't get a chance to finish the GUI so you can just learn how to do what you used to be able to do with a mouse click by typing tons of code - enjoy! I do appreciate the time you took trying to help me with this issue. Likewise on the PE - they are pretty much the only server I recommend. A university I sometimes work for often buys the servers before I recommend them so I have to deal with HPs as well but I prefer Dell's. Probably partially because I hated Compaq servers and associate the two :)

I have a script/command archive going that has been building up in the
almost past two years, that I have to look back everytime I need a command
with it's syntax. I also have a 'diagnostic logging' PS script, that allows
to set diag logging on a server. When run, a popup shows up that looks like
Exchange 2003's diagnotic logging tab in server properties. It's 257k. If
you like a copy, email me. Too large to post here.

Hang in there with the scripting. Unfortunately you will have to get used to
it! :-)

And I agree, I did not like Compaq either, and I seem to picture an
association with HP and Compaq now. Dells are easy to work on, and reliable.
:-)

Ace

No, I'm afraid I can't.

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Are you able to go back and look at the logs I pointed to earlier or the Event logs? This should give you some type of clue. -- Paul Bergson MVP - Directory Services MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 http://www.pbbergs.com Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:BAF2E5E8-6D5C-4D21-A1B7-C937F9959D02@microsoft.com... Once I actually run DCPROMO, I can never get my system to boot, even with save/recovery/disable sigs. "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message news:ejxJSkjVKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... What does debug/dcpromo.log and debug/Netlogon.log have in it? When you disabled IPv6 did you disable toreno? http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/19/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx -- Paul Bergson MVP - Directory Services MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 http://www.pbbergs.com Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com... Hello, I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.