godofgames wrote:

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ok I read all of ur problems I don't know about the but anynr have the problem with windows xp.If anybody had this problem don't worry jus format ur hard drive and reinstall the game it works

The original post you're replying to was started three and a half years ago,
and the thread itself has been untouched for two years. Hopefully the
original poster isn't still waiting for answers, and won't therefore have to
try to comprehend your "I don't know about the but anynr have the problem
with windows xp" let alone try to implement your drastic recommendation.

thax 4 ur comment now I will leave that and search another ways


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WHOOP it worked for me! thanks katy pluta. on vista i didn't even need
to navigate to all users, because when i clicked "explore" on start
button, the only file that shored up was the prgrams file. and when i
clicked on it like 5 folders popped up. I pushed "organize in the upper
left hand corner, added another folder (named Age of Empires III), and
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If the problem is still there go to c:\windows\system32 and also remove or rename the files msxml4a.dll and msxml4r.dll.Install msxml.msi from fsx dvd again and restart your pc again.Run the game and everything should be ok...The version of these 2 files that i have and the game works is 4.10.9404 Enjoy the game....

Thanks. It doesn't work for me.
The only change I have is that I don't have the msxmla.dll - at all.
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[crossposted from XP help & support to XP.games]

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"Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0D19BE62-5AA5-4065-B3EC-B682C8BBF7F5@microsoft.com... I am trying to play an older game on Windows XP. I am aware of the "Compatibility" mode, and when i use it, only the error seems to change. The error w/o compatibility does the following: Without Compatibility Mode turned on: 1. I try to install the game thru it's install window it pops up. 2. The game "install wizard" pops up, but instead of installing the game, it tries to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver". 3. It says it cannot find the driver, and tells me to restart the pc/ or boot it. With Compatibility Mode turned on: 1. I try to install the game thru it's install window it auto-run pops up. 2. The game tries to install, but instead of the game installing, it triest to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver." 3. The error says im missing the file avg_dll (or one of it's componenets). Then it says to download the missing files or libraries it needs. Im no computer nerd, nor do i have no clue what is going on here. All i know is i could play older games before on xp without problems, now i got this problem. I do know how to check this driver, and i think i have the most current one avaiable for my PC. It also specifies in the "driver portfolio" that this device is "working properly". Here is my OS also: OS: XP SP 3 (1.69 GHZ Pentium 4) Video: Nvidia Ge6200 RAM: 1 gig Memory: more than 70 gigs Sound: SoundMAX Integrated Digital Sound Game Requirements: OS: Win 98/200 (225 Mhz Processor) Ram: 225 MB Video: Nividia 3000 or higher Memory: 300 MB Keyboard and mouse Now the game requires less than i got, but considering the game is from 1999, it should theoretically work. Note that on www.gamefaqs.com, people tell me it works fine on xp, yet i am having this problem. Please HELP!

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"ju.c" wrote: What's the name of the game? ju.c

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"Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8C273F33-F5BF-40D8-82EE-242452515766@microsoft.com... I don't see the relevance of the game name, but it is called "Sepeterra Core" I already asked people at www.gamefaqs.com, and most say this game does work on windows xp, so this error must be mine only. Also, i noticed after i tried installing this game again, it corrupted my sound drivers. I had to uninstall and re-install them. My sound driver is fine again, but im afraid of re-trying to install this game again. And if your wondering, the company that made this game is no longer in existance. If your gonna ask me to ask them...too bad, they no longer exist. So im stuck asking on this board or www.gamefaqs.com

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"Richard" wrote: Relevance of the game name? How else can one Google for answers without knowing what to Google for? it tries to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver". That should be WDM, not WMD. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\SMWDM.SYS "Sepeterra Core" That should be Septerra Core. (Septerra = 7th Earth [7 continents]) Septerra Core - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septerra_Core Click Start, click Run, type or paste next line and press Enter: DXDIAG Use that diagnostic to insure that your system is working properly. (If you change anything, take notes so you can undo mistakes. :) Version 1.04 is supposed to be compatible with Windows XP. It is available at the official website: http://valkyriestudios.com/Septerra On that index page, hold shift key and click fsa.htm for answers to frequently asked questions about Septerra. Right click and click Save Target As, to save Septerra104.zip to disk, etc. (You're welcome. --Richard

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"Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2430C9CB-F9E4-439F-B4D0-765ABB5B7B59@microsoft.com... Umm sounds good. Sorry about the other post. I was really getting frustrated trying to get this game to work. I actually tried using the 1.4 patch, but i try it again. If it works, i come back and say this post was helpful. If not, i be back on here again. Anyways, thanks for the help. I try this out.

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"Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:191E8E4E-D4DB-45CC-BA64-5F13A54841CC@microsoft.com... I tried installing the game, but i still get this error: "SoundMAX WDM is not installed. Please re-install it." I looked in the system32/driver folder. I did not find the SoundMAX driver in that folder. Instead, it is located in a folder called C:/I386. There seems to be alot of drivers found in that folder. I tried running dxdiag and got clean reports that everything is working up to snuff. If you want to see it's log, i can paste on here after your response. I tried installing the patch and it gives me this error: "Fatal error-version 1.04 Septerra Core is not installed. Please install Septerra Core." I imagine since the game won't properly install, the patch won't be able to "find" the game found on my pc. I think the answers in the FAQ and the other info for Windows XP only if you can actually install the game itself on your pc. I don't think it has relevence with my problem. I tried looking at the FAQ page on the website, but it does not give me any tips about my particular problem. I really appreciate the help you given me, but i have no clue what to do next. Sorry about the earlier post too. That is my frustration showing. I try not to show it much in other posts.

OK, no sweat about past messages. (Water under the bridge... :)

I do not need to see the dxdiag report, since it came up clean.

If the SoundMAX driver is not in system32, you need to uninstall and
reinstall it as you did before. Leave the C:\i386 folder copy there.

Here are some other things to check:

Start> Run> msinfo32
expand Components, click Sound Device, Ctrl+A SelectAll, Ctrl+C Copy
(post that info back here)

Start> Run> control mmsys.cpl
In Sounds and Audio Devices Properties
SoundMAX Digital Audio
click Hardware (tab)
click SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio, click Properties (button)
In SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Properties, click Driver (tab)

Compare yours with the following from Mine:

Driver Provider: Analog Devices
Driver Date: 1/27/2005
Driver Version: 5.12.1.5246
Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher
Click Driver Details (button) [hourglass for a few seconds]
Driver File Details - SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
Driver Files:
C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe Analog Devices, Inc.
C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smwdmif.dll Analog Devices, Inc.
C:\WINDOWS\system\crlds3d.dll Sensaura Ltd
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys Microsoft
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys Microsoft
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys Microsoft
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\senfilt.sys Creative Technology Ltd.
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys Analog Devices, Inc. <---
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys Microsoft
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Edcrypt.dll Analog Devices, Inc.
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ksproxy.ax Microsoft
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ksuser.dll Microsoft
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\PostProc.dll Windows (R) 2000 DDK provider
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\wdmaud.drv Microsoft

SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio 5.12.1.5246 Analog Devices, Inc.
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys
C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\smwdm.sys

MMSYSTEM Wave/Midi API mapper 5.1.2600.5512 Microsoft Corporation
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys

WDM Audio driver mapper 5.1.2600.5512 Microsoft Corporation
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv

Name SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
Manufacturer Analog Devices, Inc.
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DE&SUBSYS_01AD1028&REV_01\3&172E68DD&0&F2
I/O Port 0x0000EC00-0x0000ECFF
I/O Port 0x0000E8C0-0x0000E8FF
Memory Address 0xFEABFA00-0xFEABFBFF
Memory Address 0xFEABF900-0xFEABF9FF
IRQ Channel IRQ 23
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys
(5.12.01.5246, 254.25 KB(260,352 bytes), 3/4/2009 12:05 PM)

Besides "Septerra104.zip" from the website, did you also try:
autosc102.exe 06-Jan-2004 14:33 1.2M
patch2.txt 06-Jan-2004 14:33 20k
sc102.exe 06-Jan-2004 14:33 288k

I do not have any other ideas on things to check.

HTH. (Hope This Helps.
--Richard

A copy from my sound information :

Name Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
Manufacturer Microsoft
Status OK
PNP Device ID MODEMWAVE\0\{8F393220-EC14-4A19-BF54-2BA8D2267293}
Driver c:\winnt\system32\drivers\modemcsa.sys (5.1.2600.0
(xpclient.010817-1148), 15.75 KB (16,128 bytes), 1/11/2002 11:39 AM)

Name SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
Manufacturer Analog Devices, Inc.
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2445&SUBSYS_500D107B&REV_05\3&61AAA01&0&FD
I/O Port 0x0000E800-0x0000E8FF
I/O Port 0x0000EF00-0x0000EF3F
IRQ Channel IRQ 17
Driver c:\winnt\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys (5.12.01.3513, 540.82 KB (553,800
bytes), 11/12/2001 2:28 PM)


It appears ours do not match. I guess we found the missing thing.
Apparently, i don't have some of the same info you have under yours. Not sure
why it is like that. That is probably the cause of why the game will not work
with my windows xp. Very odd how mine is different than yours. Why are they
different?


"Richard" wrote:

Quote:

[crossposted from XP help & support to XP.games] "Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0D19BE62-5AA5-4065-B3EC-B682C8BBF7F5@microsoft.com... I am trying to play an older game on Windows XP. I am aware of the "Compatibility" mode, and when i use it, only the error seems to change. The error w/o compatibility does the following: Without Compatibility Mode turned on: 1. I try to install the game thru it's install window it pops up. 2. The game "install wizard" pops up, but instead of installing the game, it tries to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver". 3. It says it cannot find the driver, and tells me to restart the pc/ or boot it. With Compatibility Mode turned on: 1. I try to install the game thru it's install window it auto-run pops up. 2. The game tries to install, but instead of the game installing, it triest to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver." 3. The error says im missing the file avg_dll (or one of it's componenets). Then it says to download the missing files or libraries it needs. Im no computer nerd, nor do i have no clue what is going on here. All i know is i could play older games before on xp without problems, now i got this problem. I do know how to check this driver, and i think i have the most current one avaiable for my PC. It also specifies in the "driver portfolio" that this device is "working properly". Here is my OS also: OS: XP SP 3 (1.69 GHZ Pentium 4) Video: Nvidia Ge6200 RAM: 1 gig Memory: more than 70 gigs Sound: SoundMAX Integrated Digital Sound Game Requirements: OS: Win 98/200 (225 Mhz Processor) Ram: 225 MB Video: Nividia 3000 or higher Memory: 300 MB Keyboard and mouse Now the game requires less than i got, but considering the game is from 1999, it should theoretically work. Note that on www.gamefaqs.com, people tell me it works fine on xp, yet i am having this problem. Please HELP! "ju.c" wrote: What's the name of the game? ju.c "Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8C273F33-F5BF-40D8-82EE-242452515766@microsoft.com... I don't see the relevance of the game name, but it is called "Sepeterra Core" I already asked people at www.gamefaqs.com, and most say this game does work on windows xp, so this error must be mine only. Also, i noticed after i tried installing this game again, it corrupted my sound drivers. I had to uninstall and re-install them. My sound driver is fine again, but im afraid of re-trying to install this game again. And if your wondering, the company that made this game is no longer in existance. If your gonna ask me to ask them...too bad, they no longer exist. So im stuck asking on this board or www.gamefaqs.com "Richard" wrote: Relevance of the game name? How else can one Google for answers without knowing what to Google for? it tries to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver". That should be WDM, not WMD. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\SMWDM.SYS "Sepeterra Core" That should be Septerra Core. (Septerra = 7th Earth [7 continents]) Septerra Core - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septerra_Core Click Start, click Run, type or paste next line and press Enter: DXDIAG Use that diagnostic to insure that your system is working properly. (If you change anything, take notes so you can undo mistakes. :) Version 1.04 is supposed to be compatible with Windows XP. It is available at the official website: http://valkyriestudios.com/Septerra On that index page, hold shift key and click fsa.htm for answers to frequently asked questions about Septerra. Right click and click Save Target As, to save Septerra104.zip to disk, etc. (You're welcome. --Richard "Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2430C9CB-F9E4-439F-B4D0-765ABB5B7B59@microsoft.com... Umm sounds good. Sorry about the other post. I was really getting frustrated trying to get this game to work. I actually tried using the 1.4 patch, but i try it again. If it works, i come back and say this post was helpful. If not, i be back on here again. Anyways, thanks for the help. I try this out. "Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:191E8E4E-D4DB-45CC-BA64-5F13A54841CC@microsoft.com... I tried installing the game, but i still get this error: "SoundMAX WDM is not installed. Please re-install it." I looked in the system32/driver folder. I did not find the SoundMAX driver in that folder. Instead, it is located in a folder called C:/I386. There seems to be alot of drivers found in that folder. I tried running dxdiag and got clean reports that everything is working up to snuff. If you want to see it's log, i can paste on here after your response. I tried installing the patch and it gives me this error: "Fatal error-version 1.04 Septerra Core is not installed. Please install Septerra Core." I imagine since the game won't properly install, the patch won't be able to "find" the game found on my pc. I think the answers in the FAQ and the other info for Windows XP only if you can actually install the game itself on your pc. I don't think it has relevence with my problem. I tried looking at the FAQ page on the website, but it does not give me any tips about my particular problem. I really appreciate the help you given me, but i have no clue what to do next. Sorry about the earlier post too. That is my frustration showing. I try not to show it much in other posts. OK, no sweat about past messages. (Water under the bridge... :) I do not need to see the dxdiag report, since it came up clean. If the SoundMAX driver is not in system32, you need to uninstall and reinstall it as you did before. Leave the C:\i386 folder copy there. Here are some other things to check: Start> Run> msinfo32 expand Components, click Sound Device, Ctrl+A SelectAll, Ctrl+C Copy (post that info back here) Start> Run> control mmsys.cpl In Sounds and Audio Devices Properties SoundMAX Digital Audio click Hardware (tab) click SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio, click Properties (button) In SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Properties, click Driver (tab) Compare yours with the following from Mine: Driver Provider: Analog Devices Driver Date: 1/27/2005 Driver Version: 5.12.1.5246 Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher Click Driver Details (button) [hourglass for a few seconds] Driver File Details - SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Driver Files: C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe Analog Devices, Inc. C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smwdmif.dll Analog Devices, Inc. C:\WINDOWS\system\crlds3d.dll Sensaura Ltd C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\senfilt.sys Creative Technology Ltd. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys Analog Devices, Inc. <--- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Edcrypt.dll Analog Devices, Inc. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ksproxy.ax Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ksuser.dll Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\PostProc.dll Windows (R) 2000 DDK provider C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\wdmaud.drv Microsoft SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio 5.12.1.5246 Analog Devices, Inc. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\smwdm.sys MMSYSTEM Wave/Midi API mapper 5.1.2600.5512 Microsoft Corporation C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys WDM Audio driver mapper 5.1.2600.5512 Microsoft Corporation C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv Name SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Manufacturer Analog Devices, Inc. Status OK PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DE&SUBSYS_01AD1028&REV_01\3&172E68DD&0&F2 I/O Port 0x0000EC00-0x0000ECFF I/O Port 0x0000E8C0-0x0000E8FF Memory Address 0xFEABFA00-0xFEABFBFF Memory Address 0xFEABF900-0xFEABF9FF IRQ Channel IRQ 23 Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys (5.12.01.5246, 254.25 KB(260,352 bytes), 3/4/2009 12:05 PM) Besides "Septerra104.zip" from the website, did you also try: autosc102.exe 06-Jan-2004 14:33 1.2M patch2.txt 06-Jan-2004 14:33 20k sc102.exe 06-Jan-2004 14:33 288k I do not have any other ideas on things to check. HTH. (Hope This Helps. --Richard .

I got looking more carefully. Looks like our driver versions are different.
My driver version is:

5.12.1.3513
and the date it is from is:

7/8/2002

But i think that was the latest driver that is actually compatible with this
particular PC. Yes, it is about 7 year old PC, but should i update the driver
to your version of it? I did try to use the update driver from windows, but
it says i have latest driver. Any suggestions?

"Gamer101" wrote:

Quote:

A copy from my sound information : Name Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device Manufacturer Microsoft Status OK PNP Device ID MODEMWAVE\0\{8F393220-EC14-4A19-BF54-2BA8D2267293} Driver c:\winnt\system32\drivers\modemcsa.sys (5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148), 15.75 KB (16,128 bytes), 1/11/2002 11:39 AM) Name SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Manufacturer Analog Devices, Inc. Status OK PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2445&SUBSYS_500D107B&REV_05\3&61AAA01&0&FD I/O Port 0x0000E800-0x0000E8FF I/O Port 0x0000EF00-0x0000EF3F IRQ Channel IRQ 17 Driver c:\winnt\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys (5.12.01.3513, 540.82 KB (553,800 bytes), 11/12/2001 2:28 PM) It appears ours do not match. I guess we found the missing thing. Apparently, i don't have some of the same info you have under yours. Not sure why it is like that. That is probably the cause of why the game will not work with my windows xp. Very odd how mine is different than yours. Why are they different? "Richard" wrote: [crossposted from XP help & support to XP.games] "Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0D19BE62-5AA5-4065-B3EC-B682C8BBF7F5@microsoft.com... I am trying to play an older game on Windows XP. I am aware of the "Compatibility" mode, and when i use it, only the error seems to change. The error w/o compatibility does the following: Without Compatibility Mode turned on: 1. I try to install the game thru it's install window it pops up. 2. The game "install wizard" pops up, but instead of installing the game, it tries to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver". 3. It says it cannot find the driver, and tells me to restart the pc/ or boot it. With Compatibility Mode turned on: 1. I try to install the game thru it's install window it auto-run pops up. 2. The game tries to install, but instead of the game installing, it triest to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver." 3. The error says im missing the file avg_dll (or one of it's componenets). Then it says to download the missing files or libraries it needs. Im no computer nerd, nor do i have no clue what is going on here. All i know is i could play older games before on xp without problems, now i got this problem. I do know how to check this driver, and i think i have the most current one avaiable for my PC. It also specifies in the "driver portfolio" that this device is "working properly". Here is my OS also: OS: XP SP 3 (1.69 GHZ Pentium 4) Video: Nvidia Ge6200 RAM: 1 gig Memory: more than 70 gigs Sound: SoundMAX Integrated Digital Sound Game Requirements: OS: Win 98/200 (225 Mhz Processor) Ram: 225 MB Video: Nividia 3000 or higher Memory: 300 MB Keyboard and mouse Now the game requires less than i got, but considering the game is from 1999, it should theoretically work. Note that on www.gamefaqs.com, people tell me it works fine on xp, yet i am having this problem. Please HELP! "ju.c" wrote: What's the name of the game? ju.c "Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8C273F33-F5BF-40D8-82EE-242452515766@microsoft.com... I don't see the relevance of the game name, but it is called "Sepeterra Core" I already asked people at www.gamefaqs.com, and most say this game does work on windows xp, so this error must be mine only. Also, i noticed after i tried installing this game again, it corrupted my sound drivers. I had to uninstall and re-install them. My sound driver is fine again, but im afraid of re-trying to install this game again. And if your wondering, the company that made this game is no longer in existance. If your gonna ask me to ask them...too bad, they no longer exist. So im stuck asking on this board or www.gamefaqs.com "Richard" wrote: Relevance of the game name? How else can one Google for answers without knowing what to Google for? it tries to install a driver called "SoundMAX WMD Driver". That should be WDM, not WMD. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\SMWDM.SYS "Sepeterra Core" That should be Septerra Core. (Septerra = 7th Earth [7 continents]) Septerra Core - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septerra_Core Click Start, click Run, type or paste next line and press Enter: DXDIAG Use that diagnostic to insure that your system is working properly. (If you change anything, take notes so you can undo mistakes. :) Version 1.04 is supposed to be compatible with Windows XP. It is available at the official website: http://valkyriestudios.com/Septerra On that index page, hold shift key and click fsa.htm for answers to frequently asked questions about Septerra. Right click and click Save Target As, to save Septerra104.zip to disk, etc. (You're welcome. --Richard "Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2430C9CB-F9E4-439F-B4D0-765ABB5B7B59@microsoft.com... Umm sounds good. Sorry about the other post. I was really getting frustrated trying to get this game to work. I actually tried using the 1.4 patch, but i try it again. If it works, i come back and say this post was helpful. If not, i be back on here again. Anyways, thanks for the help. I try this out. "Gamer101" <Gamer101@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:191E8E4E-D4DB-45CC-BA64-5F13A54841CC@microsoft.com... I tried installing the game, but i still get this error: "SoundMAX WDM is not installed. Please re-install it." I looked in the system32/driver folder. I did not find the SoundMAX driver in that folder. Instead, it is located in a folder called C:/I386. There seems to be alot of drivers found in that folder. I tried running dxdiag and got clean reports that everything is working up to snuff. If you want to see it's log, i can paste on here after your response. I tried installing the patch and it gives me this error: "Fatal error-version 1.04 Septerra Core is not installed. Please install Septerra Core." I imagine since the game won't properly install, the patch won't be able to "find" the game found on my pc. I think the answers in the FAQ and the other info for Windows XP only if you can actually install the game itself on your pc. I don't think it has relevence with my problem. I tried looking at the FAQ page on the website, but it does not give me any tips about my particular problem. I really appreciate the help you given me, but i have no clue what to do next. Sorry about the earlier post too. That is my frustration showing. I try not to show it much in other posts. OK, no sweat about past messages. (Water under the bridge... :) I do not need to see the dxdiag report, since it came up clean. If the SoundMAX driver is not in system32, you need to uninstall and reinstall it as you did before. Leave the C:\i386 folder copy there. Here are some other things to check: Start> Run> msinfo32 expand Components, click Sound Device, Ctrl+A SelectAll, Ctrl+C Copy (post that info back here) Start> Run> control mmsys.cpl In Sounds and Audio Devices Properties SoundMAX Digital Audio click Hardware (tab) click SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio, click Properties (button) In SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Properties, click Driver (tab) Compare yours with the following from Mine: Driver Provider: Analog Devices Driver Date: 1/27/2005 Driver Version: 5.12.1.5246 Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher Click Driver Details (button) [hourglass for a few seconds] Driver File Details - SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Driver Files: C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe Analog Devices, Inc. C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smwdmif.dll Analog Devices, Inc. C:\WINDOWS\system\crlds3d.dll Sensaura Ltd C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\senfilt.sys Creative Technology Ltd. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys Analog Devices, Inc. <--- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Edcrypt.dll Analog Devices, Inc. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ksproxy.ax Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ksuser.dll Microsoft C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\PostProc.dll Windows (R) 2000 DDK provider C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\wdmaud.drv Microsoft SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio 5.12.1.5246 Analog Devices, Inc. C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\smwdm.sys MMSYSTEM Wave/Midi API mapper 5.1.2600.5512 Microsoft Corporation C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys WDM Audio driver mapper 5.1.2600.5512 Microsoft Corporation C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv Name SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Manufacturer Analog Devices, Inc. Status OK PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DE&SUBSYS_01AD1028&REV_01\3&172E68DD&0&F2 I/O Port 0x0000EC00-0x0000ECFF I/O Port 0x0000E8C0-0x0000E8FF Memory Address 0xFEABFA00-0xFEABFBFF Memory Address 0xFEABF900-0xFEABF9FF IRQ Channel IRQ 23 Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys (5.12.01.5246, 254.25 KB(260,352 bytes), 3/4/2009 12:05 PM) Besides "Septerra104.zip" from the website, did you also try: autosc102.exe 06-Jan-2004 14:33 1.2M patch2.txt 06-Jan-2004 14:33 20k sc102.exe 06-Jan-2004 14:33 288k I do not have any other ideas on things to check. HTH. (Hope This Helps. --Richard .

Gamer101 wrote:

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But i think that was the latest driver that is actually compatible with this particular PC. Yes, it is about 7 year old PC, but should i update the driver to your version of it? I did try to use the update driver from windows, but it says i have latest driver. Any suggestions?

See if you can find a later driver at a Soundmax website. Windows may
not be aware of newer drivers. I went looking for a Soundmax website,
and eventually found one, but it was a bit harder than I expected. I've
forgotten where it was, though, as my integrated Soundmax audio "card"
is my secondary soundcard, and I found/fixed my problem before needing
to update my drivers. (my problem was plugging my microphone into
Line-in instead of Microphone).

Good luck.

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